Retirement Rate of Withdrawal: How The Cost of Help at Home May Be Hidden

Retirement Rate of Withdrawal: How The Cost of Help at Home May Be Hidden

Some retirement plans are based on the theory that drawdown should be at 4% a year and that there "might be" some higher medical costs near the end of a person's life span. This is a very flawed way to look at retirement! If you, the advisor are telling your clients that they can expect level spending throughout retirement years and that they can only anticipate a "maybe" for increased medical costs toward the end of their years, you are not giving them reality.

The truth is that many people suffer gradual declines in their independence over time, throughout retirement. This is particularly the case for those who have never embraced a particularly healthy lifestyle. What happens to them? They have to start paying out of pocket for things that are not considered "medical costs"; i.e., those things most folks require to stay at home, rather than go into an institution. This can start with a home care worker. If a person reaches age 80, for example, and has arthritis, which is the number one cause of disability in the U.S., she may need help with bathing, dressing and walking, among other things. Medicare does not pay for the kind of helper she will need to remain in own home. The national median hourly rate is $20, according to the Genworth Cost of Care Survey. Are you planning for this cost with your clients?

The 80-year-old with arthritis may need a knee replacement or hip replacement. Following either surgery, there is an expected period of disability during which a person will likely need a lot of help. Medicare pays for some rehabilitation but that benefit will most probably be limited to a few weeks, at most, while the recovery period at home may be much longer. Again there is an out of pocket cost for help at home that is not covered by Medicare.

This is just one example of a disabling condition that will require increased spending in retirement for your clients. Many aging people have multiple medical conditions at the same time, thereby increasing the likelihood that they will need to draw out more money in retirement than what many advisors calculate as level spending over those retirement years. I hope you can see the flaws in this kind of planning.

You can do better! When you do retirement planning, be sure to help clients understand what they probably don't want to face: most people will need some kind of paid help as they reach age 80 and beyond. Some will need to pay for help much sooner than age 80. This help is not about level drawdown. It is about increased out of pocket costs that are not considered "medical costs" by Medicare. Medicare supplements do not cover these costs either.

If you are thinking that it's not a problem because their "fun" spending will slow down as they become more disabled, think again. Travel is not precluded for disabled people. Nor are luxury goods, expensive cars, or other things people like to have as a part of their lifestyle in retirement. Helping your clients understand the need for restraining spending and planning for out of pocket non-medical costs of care is a much-needed service you can provide.

Strengthen your knowledge about the hidden costs of long-term care with aging at AgingInvestor.com.

 

Dr. Mikol Davis and Carolyn Rosenblatt, co-founders of AgingInvestor.com

Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder Law Attorney offers a wealth of experience with aging to help you create tools so you can skillfully manage your aging clients. You will understand your rights and theirs so you can stay safe and keep them safe too.

Dr. Mikol Davis, Psychologist, Gerontologist offers in depth of knowledge about diminished financial capacity in older adults to help you strategize best practices so you can protect your vulnerable aging clients.

They are the authors of "Succeed With Senior Clients: A Financial Advisors Guide To Best Practice," and "Hidden Truths About Retirement And Long Term Care," available at AgingInvestor.com offers accredited cutting edge on-line continuing education courses for financial professionals wanting to expand their expertise in best practices for their aging clients. To learn more about our courses click HERE

How Do You Advise Clients Who Plan To Self-Insure For Long Term Care?

How Do You Advise Clients Who Plan To Self-Insure For Long Term Care?

How Do You Advise Clients Who Plan To Self-Insure For Long Term Care?

By Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder law attorney, AgingInvestor.com

Of course, your clients think they will never need long term care and they likely resist talking with you about it. Retirement planning is much more fun when you're discussing cash flow, travel and leisure, and being free from the responsibility of work. And then there's this thing called reality: retirement is not all fun.

Here at AgingInvestor.com, we offer you the benefit of our experience in dealing with countless families with aging folks among them. The adult children are our most frequent clients in our companion endeavor, AgingParents.com, and the stories they tell us are a jarring wake-up call for anyone. No one expects to need to be taken care of so no one wants to look at how frighteningly expensive it is.

For the moment, let's leave aside the issue of long term care insurance. (My husband and I bought it if that's an indication of what I think about the subject). Knowing that so few people bite the bullet and shell out those premium dollars, we are looking at the vast majority of clients who choose to self-insure against the risk of needing to pay for long term care. What are you telling them about this prospect? What do you say about their risks?

Here is one thing every advisor with a retirement-age client who chooses to self-insure should know: health status at retirement matters. A lot. Maybe you think that your client's health is not your business, as you're in the money management field. Maybe you see the health questions as being outside your area of expertise and you want nothing to do with the subject. It's personal after all. And so is running out of money and needing care.

Measuring risk in investment products is at the heart of your job. If you want to add true value to your client's engagement with you, an elementary look at the client's health status at retirement is also part of your job. There is a direct correlation between chronic health issues and the likely need for long term care. I do not suggest that you need to be an expert or have any health background. You need your two eyes, your ears, and your common sense to ask a few essential questions. Those questions and the answers will give you some solid ground to stand on when you talk with a client about planning for this potential expense and how likely it is that the client will need this care. They may or may not listen to you, but if you fail to give them the facts, you are not serving them well.

Here are some of the essential questions you need to bring up when you talk with them about retirement, the long view, living past 80, and how long their assets can be expected to last.

  1. How is your health, generally speaking? Do you have any chronic conditions like heart problems or diabetes?
  2. Do you smoke?
  3. Has any doctor ever given you any warnings about your health or what you should do differently now?

With your client's answers, you then can progress to the discussion about why he or she probably has a higher risk than someone else without that problem/ condition/smoking history of needing long term care. At least a third of our population will need to pay for it at some point in their lives. Those with chronic illness may have to pay for long term care for years and years. It would also be helpful for you to do some calculations for your client. This is the "just in case, let's imagine you have to pay for a helper at home" conversation.

If you feel awkward about how to bring this up, what questions to ask and how to talk about the dollars involved in long term care we can help you. Our newest book, Hidden Truths About Retirement & Long Term Care: The Guide For Financial Professionals is loaded with tips, sample scripts and all the costs of different kinds of long term care spelled out for you. Get your copy here today so you can put your mind at ease!

 

Dr. Mikol Davis and Carolyn Rosenblatt, co-founders of AgingInvestor.com

Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder Law Attorney offers a wealth of experience with aging to help you create tools so you can skillfully manage your aging clients. You will understand your rights and theirs so you can stay safe and keep them safe too.

Dr. Mikol Davis, Psychologist, Gerontologist offers in depth of knowledge about diminished financial capacity in older adults to help you strategize best practices so you can protect your vulnerable aging clients.

They are the authors of "Succeed With Senior Clients: A Financial Advisors Guide To Best Practice," and "Hidden Truths About Retirement And Long Term Care," available at AgingInvestor.com offers accredited cutting edge on-line continuing education courses for financial professionals wanting to expand their expertise in best practices for their aging clients. To learn more about our courses click HERE

Three Things You Need To Know About “Out Of Pocket Medical Costs” In Retirement

Three Things You Need To Know About “Out Of Pocket Medical Costs” In Retirement

You're trying to help the sixty-something clients plan for what they can anticipate spending for medical care in the future. You tell them about the average amounts a couple retiring at age 65 will need. The language seems fuzzy. Are you, the advisor, completely clear about what the term means when you say "out of pocket medical costs"?

That which is "medical" and what is paid by Medicare does not seem to be clear to many financial professionals we've interviewed. If you want to help your clients plan adequately for retirement, here are some critical points you need to make with them.

Medicare never paid for what it calls "custodial care". This is not medical care by Medicare's definition. It did not cover it in the past and it does not pay for it now. There is a distinct and very important difference between what it covers and what most people need over the long run in their retirement years. If your idea of "out of pocket medical costs" is hazy, let's clear it up right now. This is a list of things Medicare doesn't pay for, which just happen to be the most common things people need as they age. This is only a partial list.

 Nursing home ("rehab") after a limited number of days. The maximum coverage depends not on how sick the client is, nor how much help they really need due to such disabling conditions as a stroke, nor how they feel. It depends solely on what the nursing home administration decides about whether they are continuing to make the right kind of progress. That progress must require skilled care which can be nursing, physical, speech or occupational therapy. There may be 100 days available for coverage, but this does not mean that all of it will be covered or that the person will get that much in the rehab facility. If it is decided that there is not enough progress, the person's care is termed "custodial" and they are cut off from Medicare.

Home Care. Millions of people who are released from a nursing home after surgery, an emergency or a fall, for example, need help at home either short term or long term. Medical events change us and can rob us of complete independence. There is a false belief around that Medicare will cover what you need if you have to have home care. This is true only for a very short time and only if skilled, licensed nurses or therapists are needed at home. Most of the time, a person is cut off from help when leaving a facility and has to pay for home care out of pocket. The national average hourly rate is $20, which can eat up one's assets quickly in a fairly short time frame.

Help at home to stay out of a care facility. A lot of folks think they'll live to be 100 years of age. No one discusses with them what it would mean to live that long without being completely independent. Help costs money. Many people assume that family or someone will take care of them if care is needed. But not everyone is willing to or capable to undertake what is often a serious burden. Even when family does take on caregiving, they need a break, and relief. Then help from outside must be hired. Without constant help many older people would have to be in a care facility. Does it make sense that when assets are largely all spent, Medicaid will pay for a nursing home but Medicaid will not pay for preventing the need for a nursing home, a far more economical alternative? Of course not, but that's how it works.

The Takeaways

Fully two thirds of us will need long term care at some point in our lives. Unless the client is the rare one with long term care insurance, there is no way to pay for long term care other than to do so out of pocket. Sometimes this depletes all the client's assets and leaves them with no choices in the last part of their lives. For those who live into their 90s and beyond, the need for some kind of long term care by family or a facility seems almost inevitable. Your clients need to stop pretending that it's not going to happen to them, and you, the professional must steer them in the direction of saving and anticipating this need as much as you can. They will resist! Keep trying. Educate yourself first. You can get all the facts and figures you need to have a wise conversation with your older clients in our new book, Hidden Truths About Retirement & Long Term Care. Get your copy now and start adding value to those retirement discussions with your clients.

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By Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder law attorney, AgingInvestor.com

 

Dr. Mikol Davis and Carolyn Rosenblatt, co-founders of AgingInvestor.com

Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder Law Attorney offers a wealth of experience with aging to help you create tools so you can skillfully manage your aging clients. You will understand your rights and theirs so you can stay safe and keep them safe too.

Dr. Mikol Davis, Psychologist, Gerontologist offers in depth of knowledge about diminished financial capacity in older adults to help you strategize best practices so you can protect your vulnerable aging clients.

They are the authors of "Succeed With Senior Clients: A Financial Advisors Guide To Best Practice," and "Hidden Truths About Retirement And Long Term Care," available at AgingInvestor.com offers accredited cutting edge on-line continuing education courses for financial professionals wanting to expand their expertise in best practices for their aging clients. To learn more about our courses click HERE

The Gaping Hole In Retirement Planning: What Are You Missing?

The Gaping Hole In Retirement Planning: What Are You Missing?

Most financial professionals see themselves doing fine in helping their clients plan ahead for retirement. And their clients are probably in for a nasty surprise no one is talking about. The professionals have done the calculations, used the algorithms, had the conversations about their clients' goals. You may have forgotten something. Are you missing the elephant in the room: long term care?

At least a third of your clients are going to need it at some point. We're not talking about nursing home care here. We're talking about all the other out of pocket costs clients are not considering but that they will likely need as they age. Think about longevity today. Both men and women will probably live into their 80s at least. How many 85 year olds do you know who do not need any sort of help with anything in their lives? Not many, we'll bet.

As the body ages, it is harder to see, hear, get around physically, drive, and manage households and finances. Help with all of those things is actually an out of pocket cost we consider to be long term care. Medicare calls it "custodial care". That means all the kinds of support an aging person needs to stay out of a nursing home. The actual cost of a nursing home is another discussion altogether. When we talk about custodial care here we mean help with bathing, dressing, walking, eating, getting to the bathroom and getting out of bed onto a chair and back. These are called "activities of daily living" or ADLs. We are also talking about help with shopping, cooking, paying bills, cleaning the house and doing laundry. These are called "instrumental activities of daily living" or IADLs.

Your clients don't want to think about needing help. In this country, we insist on believing that we will always be independent--it's embedded in our culture and myths about aging. But those myths are not true. Independence declines with age for most of us. And help is expensive.

Consider that the averages you hear about do not address this at all when it comes to retirement planning. "The average couple age 65 will spend (fill in the blank here, anywhere from $265,000 to $400,000) on out of pocket medical expenses." OK. Custodial care is NOT medical care. Medicare does not cover it. Health insurance, including Medigap coverage does not pay for it. Who then does? Some long term care insurance policies cover some of it, with restrictions. Otherwise, it's all an out of pocket non-medical cost your client will have to cover. Imagine the costs when you calculate the "burn rate" of their retirement funds. Didn't factor that in? It's time for a second look at the plan.

if you have no idea how to calculate this or what your client's chances are for needing to pay for any kind of long term care, you can learn the basics and the costs in our newest book. Get the facts quickly that will help you in Hidden Truths About Retirement and Long Term Care: The Financial Advisors' Guide. Order your copy by clicking HERE.

 

Dr. Mikol Davis and Carolyn Rosenblatt, co-founders of AgingInvestor.com

Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder Law Attorney offers a wealth of experience with aging to help you create tools so you can skillfully manage your aging clients. You will understand your rights and theirs so you can stay safe and keep them safe too.

Dr. Mikol Davis, Psychologist, Gerontologist offers in depth of knowledge about diminished financial capacity in older adults to help you strategize best practices so you can protect your vulnerable aging clients.

They are the authors of "Succeed With Senior Clients: A Financial Advisors Guide To Best Practice," and "Hidden Truths About Retirement And Long Term Care," available at AgingInvestor.com offers accredited cutting edge on-line continuing education courses for financial professionals wanting to expand their expertise in best practices for their aging clients. To learn more about our courses click HERE

Your Retirement-Age Clients and Budget Politics

Your Retirement-Age Clients and Budget Politics

While advisors are there to serve those with investable assets, it is not only your clients who are affected by politics, the Federal budget and cuts to programs. It may be your clients' family members, their aging parents or struggling adult kids.

When family members are beneficiaries of various public programs that help them get by, your clients may not be affected except with feeling relief. But when programs are slashed, the reverberation can affect your own clients, who are likely to be better off financially and therefore expected to help. Every advisor needs to consider this. Cash flow projections on retirement savings can be totally disrupted when your client has to pitch in and give financial help to a low-income family member.

Imagine this: your Boomer clients are ready for retirement. You have carefully worked out what they will need to sustain their lifestyle and make their money last. One or the other of them has low income aging parents in their 80s. Their parents have part of their health care costs paid by Medicaid. Medicaid gets slashed. Your client has to help pay the 20% of costs Medicaid was previously covering for their parent's health care costs. And since those costs tend to rise with aging, your client will potentially pay the cost of a supplemental insurance policy or non-covered medications or other things.

Here's another thing to see in looking at how budget cut proposals can destroy your careful retirement income planning for your clients. Some have disabled siblings, adult children or others who benefited directly from the Medicaid expansion of the Affordable Care Act. Some of those folks are not yet eligible for Medicare and rely entirely on Medicaid for all health care coverage. With massive cuts to Medicaid, they are among the millions who would lose insurance altogether. If they have a well-to-do family member, your client, where will they look if a medical need arises and there is no way to pay for it? Probably to your client.

Then, lets look at your clients' lowest income family members who rely on the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), formerly called food stamps. Nearly five million seniors rely on this program in order to afford food. A massive cut (proposed) of $194 billion would surely affect them immediately. Can you imagine any client refusing a request from a low-income family member for money because he or she couldn't afford groceries? That grocery money contribution could be every week and go on indefinitely into the future.

Perhaps this is just a heads-up for every financial planner to build into clients' retirement planning that some cash may be needed on a monthly basis to help their relatives who can't get by without their help. In my own family, four of us pitch in every month to support a low-income sibling. He has Medicare and also Medicaid. For all of us who are Boomers and a bit older, a hit to the existing Medicaid benefit would cost each one of us more dollars every month than we are currently paying.

Your clients may be in the same situation. We at AgingInvestor.com hope you will bring up the subject and help your clients plan accordingly. You would do that by asking clients planning retirement if there is anyone in the family they may be called upon to help support.

Our political climate may not change for some time. And every lower income American who is a needy family member of your retirement-aged clients will be affected one way or another. Help them prepare for the anticipated expense.

 

Dr. Mikol Davis and Carolyn Rosenblatt, co-founders of AgingInvestor.com

Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder Law Attorney offers a wealth of experience with aging to help you create tools so you can skillfully manage your aging clients. You will understand your rights and theirs so you can stay safe and keep them safe too.

Dr. Mikol Davis, Psychologist, Gerontologist offers in depth of knowledge about diminished financial capacity in older adults to help you strategize best practices so you can protect your vulnerable aging clients.

They are the authors of "Succeed With Senior Clients: A Financial Advisors Guide To Best Practice," and "Hidden Truths About Retirement And Long Term Care," available at AgingInvestor.com offers accredited cutting edge on-line continuing education courses for financial professionals wanting to expand their expertise in best practices for their aging clients. To learn more about our courses click HERE