Advising for Longevity: Why Advisors Must Consider Older Clients’ Health Issues

Advising for Longevity: Why Advisors Must Consider Older Clients’ Health Issues

Your clients are getting ready for retirement. You've done the calculations, balanced the portfolio and advised them of what income to expect. You've discussed how much spending is ok. You used your program and your analysis was thorough. You've done your job, right?

 Not exactly. There is probably no algorithm nor program that will calculate your client's individual profile of health risks that will likely lead to the expense of long term care.  That can be a whopper. Maybe you've suggested long term care insurance. Most people don't choose to buy it. For those who do, the benefits are limited and the "elimination period" (deductible) is thousands of dollars. There go your careful calculations. At least 90% of folks don't have that coverage. Now what?

 But how can you predict what's going to happen to anyone's health in retirement, you ask. You can't be precise, but you surely can make some rational observations and give advice accordingly.  Those observations consist of two parts: what you can see with your own eyes and what you can glean by asking a few basic questions.  If you think asking any client about their health conditions is too nosy or not your job, consider that if the client needs long term care and runs out of money because of it, they're not going to think much of you. And the cost can wipe out their security.

 Asking about health issues is not nosy at all. Rather, it's what any smart advisor planning for longevity must do. Let's not keep pretending that everyone stays the same physically and mentally from the start of retirement to end of life.  Our bodies go through wear and tear and things break down. Cognitive decline affects at least a third of people who reach the age of 85. The risk of Alzheimer's disease keeps climbing after that.  Now, what was that life expectancy you were using in your calculation? Was it age 99?

 Let's start with what you can see in your client with your own eyes. (If they're not in front of you, perhaps Skype is an option). Is your client obese, as about 40% of the U.S. population is?  This leads to heart disease, stroke, and diabetes, among other diseases and conditions.  The medical care people receive in many cases will save them from dying but they then live with disabilities. And yes, they will be very likely to need expensive long term care. Neither health insurance nor Medicare  will cover long term care. Such help as a part time caregiver at home is how most folks start out with long term care. Your client pays out of pocket most of the time. Did you calculate how much it costs as well as how long they will likely need it? If they have multiple medical conditions, and have started long term care, they'll probably continue to need some form of it for all their remaining years.

 Find out what you may not know from simply observing your client's appearance by asking questions.  You can make your own list or get a health care provider to help you with a few targeted questions. You will need to educate your client as to the reason why you need this information. It's to help them plan for how much to save in their retirement years.

 Here are some examples of basic questions that can help you predict the need for possible long term care:

  1. How's your health these days? Has a doctor told you that you have any long term conditions?
  2. Are you taking medications? What are they for?
  3. Do you smoke?
  4. Are you concerned at all about any health issues you have at this time?

Do you recall your parents' ages when they died?Your aging clients will not be eager to talk about the potential need for long term care. When you told them about what to expect for "out of pocket medical costs in retirement", you did not give them a figure that included long term care. Long term care is not "medical" according to Medicare. Rather, it is called "custodial care". The client probably will not bring it up, so you must do this.

 When you have done your observations and gotten answers to your health-risk related questions at least there is a place to start a meaningful conversation. You can give them figures as to the cost of typical kinds of care, such as a non-medical home care worker. We at AgingInvestor.com recommend starting your projections at age 80 as to when a person might need physical help. Many of us know someone who did require help with at least some part of his or her life at that age. Then you can talk about how any condition your client identifies for you, such as high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. as shortening normal life expectancy and increasing the risk for needing help.  If your client already has difficulty with some normal daily activity such as walking or bathing, they are definitely at high risk for needing paid help sooner than a person without these problems.

Clients may be completely unaware of such things as the hourly cost of a home care worker, what assisted living costs each month and what home modifications cost if they are able to remain in their own home. You can find a thorough discussion of these and many other parts of long term care in our book, Hidden Truths About Retirement & Long Term Care, written specifically for financial advisors like you.

 Every conscientious advisor needs to wake up to the reality that your retirement income calculator omits the reality check of health problems. We're not talking about nursing homes, but every other kind of care and help most people will need as they age. If you do want to help clients who are reaching retirement age to plan realistically, include the health risks you can see or learn about by asking.

By Carolyn L. Rosenblatt, RN, Elder law attorney, AgingInvestor.com

Advisors: Are Your Aging Clients Targets? Will The Senior Safe Act Help?

Advisors: Are Your Aging Clients Targets? Will The Senior Safe Act Help?

Scams, theft and fraud with seniors' money is a growing problem. Now the Wall Street Journal reports that banks in our country calculated a 12% increase in financial elder abuse just in the last year. Why do the thieves pick on grandma or grandpa so much? It looks so ugly to take advantage of an elder.

Your aging clients, whether getting advice or investing in your institution, are targets without a doubt. They hold a disproportionate amount of our country's wealth. And you can help stop them from being victimized. Over $36B a year is stolen from elders in the U.S. alone.

Your aging parents are easy targets for scammerThe Ss for lots of reasons. Elders in this country hold a disproportionately high level of wealth compared to younger people. Some have accumulated significant assets and they may not see themselves as vulnerable at all. Clearly, diminishing cognition makes it easy for thieves and manipulators. Cognitive decline affects at least a third of people over age 85. Your aging client may not have the awareness any longer to spot a fishy-sounding line from anyone. Widowed clients live alone and are isolated, ready to engage with that friendly sounding, cheerful voice from the clever scammer on the phone.

Thieves stay in contact and weave a trap over time. Many aging folks are dependent on others for care, for help at home and for social contact. Dependency makes them vulnerable. Unscrupulous family members lead the pack of those who seize on that vulnerability and trust to rip off their elders. It's all too easy to influence an aging person to give a "loan", access to an account, or power of attorney to a person with ulterior motives, which essentially creates a license to steal. Eventually they all want your elderly client to give them money. That's where your awareness can thwart them.

Banks are making efforts step up their reporting of suspected elder abuse, but that is not enough to thwart the crime. The Senior Safe Act gives you, the financial professional protection if you report suspected financial abuse. Great. But how about stepping up your contact and review of transactions with any elderly client before abuse happens? Too often, the customer-facing bank employee does not see anything wrong until far too much money has been drained from the elder's account. After the abuse has occurred, it is too late to get the money back. And there is hesitation at the banks, even when they are warned. To put bluntly, banks can add to the problem.

One example of this involved a client of ours at AgingParents.com where we consult with families and elders. She was the daughter of an 87 year old dad who had some memory problems and was frail, losing independence. Her father was a wealthy man, in a long-term relationship with a younger woman. She had manipulated him into giving her access to his family's trust account into which his significant income was deposited each month.

The man's daughter found out after a suspicious withdrawal from the account and she contacted the bank immediately. She traveled to her father's state, went to the bank in person and showed them the trust, which did not have the girlfriend's name on it anywhere. She asked them to stop the access by the girlfriend. The bank complied and put the funds into an account to which the girlfriend did not have access. After the man's daughter left the state, the girlfriend took the elder back to the bank and told him to say that he wanted her on the account. Presto! The bank complied and the girlfriend then had access once again, only one day later. The bank aided the girlfriend in financial abuse of their own elderly customer, despite a specific request to stop it and evidence of manipulation. The matter ended up in litigation. We can only say "how ridiculous!" The financial professional, bank employee or manager should have known better. The picture was classic: warning had been given, paperwork proving the problem was given to the bank, and the bank agreed to take the pushy girlfriend off the account. Then they turned around the next day and did the opposite, just because the elderly customer was standing there. Never mind that he was manipulated into saying what the woman told him to say, prodding him as he stood there. That kind of scenario is what needs to change.

If you are now supposed to report abuse, you definitely need to know what the red flags of diminished capacity look like and how to see the warning signs of financial abuse. At AgingInvestor.com, we offer accredited courses to train financial service employees, compliance officers and managers in how to spot warning signs of cognitive decline and financial elder abuse.

Get your free checklist of the red flags of diminished capacity here.

Here are some takeaways:

1.The Senior Safe Act gives you some immunity if you report abuse. It offers you no guidance in how to spot elder financial abuse.

2. Aging clients with diminished capacity are, of course, much more vulnerable to manipulation by an unscrupulous romantic "friend", family member or stranger on the phone or internet. They need your protection.

3. Odds are that by the time you report suspected abuse, the money is already gone and authorities cannot get it back. It makes more sense to be proactive in protecting aging clients rather than merely reporting abuse. Learn about how to do that by training.

 

By Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder law attorney, AgingInvestor.com

Where Will Your Client Live In Older Age?

Where Will Your Client Live In Older Age?

Most advisors who even ask this question of their retirement-aged clients never spend time on it. About 90% of those asked say they want to remain in their own homes as long as possible.  That sounds fine. Until one faces physical decline, cognitive impairment or both. The advisor providing competent guidance about financing aging at home had better know the facts.

None of us like to think about losing physical ability or needing help. We abhor the thought of losing our total independence. In our view at AgingInvestor.com, the only advice clients are getting is about the long term picture is whether or not to purchase long term care insurance. Since most people don't do that, the actual costs of living at home can boggle the mind. It's the best advisor's obligation to educate your client about the risks of the plan to age in place, just as it is your obligation to educate them about balancing their portfolios. You are giving the client added value if you take the time to talk them through the risks and dollars they may need to have available.

Here are some briefly stated facts from a real case in which an 89 year old wanted to age in place and his wife promised he would never have to leave home.

At the outset of his declining health, he had about $3M in invested assets. His portfolio was healthy and balanced for his age, according to conventional wisdom. He began to lose his ability to walk due to multiple medical problems. His wife hired home helpers, three days a week at first. As his conditions progressed he needed more and more help.  He had to have a wheelchair, and a special van. A stair chair was installed in their two-story home. By the time he reached age 95, he was spending over $150,000 a year on care and assistance around the clock. In the space of time during which he was steadily losing independence until he passed away at 95, his assets were depleted to the tune of $2M. He lived in a higher end market for the needed help but the reality is that in any market, the kind of care he needed would be very expensive.

For him, aging in place was more costly than a skilled nursing facility would have been. Home modifications, private caregivers, (none of whom were licensed nurses), equipment, medications, adaptive devices, etc. drained his resources by 2/3. And not everyone has as much invested as he had to even start the journey. His wife had her own assets and she paid the cost of household maintenance, taxes, food, and utilities with her funds. Had she relied on him for those things too, there would likely have been little left at the end of his life.

It is not all doom and gloom however. Many clients live rather well in their last years without all the care this gentleman needed.  Some get by with family caregiving help, and some have fewer medical conditions. But if you are going to competently help your clients plan for longevity, it's essential to understand the real out of pocket costs of aging in place or anywhere else outside the home. If you want to add value to your services to older clients, know what they need to know to properly anticipate what can happen with living into one's 90s and beyond. Learn all the actual costs of care for every aging client option in our book, Hidden Truths About Retirement & Long Term Care. Be well prepared to walk your client through the scenarios they could face in their futures.  You distinguish yourself from other advisors when you sharpen your knowledge in planning for longevity.

By Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Attorney, AgingInvestor.com

The Truth About Getting A Trusted Contact Person for Your Clients

The Truth About Getting A Trusted Contact Person for Your Clients

It seems that regulators are fond of creating new mandates for you without telling you how to implement them and what risks might be involved. The new FINRA rule that says you must "try" to get a trusted contact person (TCP) for new clients is illustrative.

First of all there is no firm requirement that you actually get a TCP for anyone. All you have to do is make an attempt. If the client says "no", you're out of luck in trying to solve any problem that may exist without anyone to call in the event of an issue you see. Such issues might include someone ripping off your client or your client really losing his marbles. The intent of the rule was good. The idea was to increase protections for vulnerable elders. It's just that the way clients act and the issues you are sure to see with one TCP have been ignored in regulators' creation of this mandate.

Research has given us important information about protecting elders from financial abuse. We know that family members are the most frequent abusers of elders. Guess who most elders would think of as a TCP? The family member, of course. The idea of a single TCP is flawed from the outset. If the idea is to keep your client financially safer, you don't want to be limited to the potential abuser as the TCP. That defeats the purpose.

Here at AgingInvestor.com we are on a mission to keep elders safer. We make every effort to fill in the blank places your regulators leave when they come up with a mandate like getting a TCP for your clients. Here are our recommendations on this subject and why we say what we say about TCPs.

First, we believe every advisor should not only "try" to get a TCP for every client--we think you should insist on it as a matter of your intelligent, proactive senior office policy. Every client, new and existing should be approached with a courteous, respectful explanation and request to name a TCP you can contact in case of need. You let clients know that you have a policy to protect them from potential predators who are out there trolling for your clients, particularly the seniors. You could write this explanation and request up and send it around or bring it up at every portfolio review.

Next, we recommend that you get not just one TCP for every client, but three. The reason for this is that since family members are often the abusers of vulnerable people, you need someone else to call if "sonny boy" is ripping off dad's account and dad is too impaired to realize it. "Sonny boy" just might be the one TCP his dad, your client named and you would then be stuck with no way to protect your client in that situation.  Someone outside the family would be ideal. This could be the estate attorney, a competent friend, or a clergy person your client trusts. Any of them would need to be able to intervene when learning of suspected financial abuse of your client. A third TCP could be another family member your client also sees as trustworthy.  With information going from the advisor to three people at once, the risk of abuse is lessened and the chances of effective action in the event of abuse are increased.

Finally, we recommend that you consider all the risks involved in a decision to reach out to the TCP when you see red flags of diminished capacity in your client, or when you see warning signs of financial abuse of your client.  You do need a written internal office policy that directs you as to the observations, documentation and steps to take when an issue comes to your attention. Legally, you are probably on firm ground, carrying out the intent of the FINRA regulation. However, you don't want to set your client up for harm.

For instance, if the client is in the middle of a contentious divorce and the ex- spouse is the TCP, do you want to release information about your client's finances that could harm your client in the divorce proceeding? Give yourself time to discuss the options with other, knowledgeable people in your office, or group. The value of having a proactive office policy for aging clients in this situation is that you have others to ask and weigh in with their points of view.

If you are not sure about the red flags of diminished capacity and what you should look for, get your free downloadable checklist here. Likewise if you are not clear about classic warning signs of financial abuse get your free checklist for those here too.

Need help with that smart, proactive senior office policy? Ask for a consultation at AgingInvestor.com and get the guidance you need from our nurse-lawyer, geriatric psychologist team

 

Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder law attorney, AgingInvestor.com

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Myth Versus Reality: New Rule 2165 and Temporary Holds on Disbursements

Myth Versus Reality: New Rule 2165 and Temporary Holds on Disbursements

The regulators are trying. They want to help advisors protect aging clients from financial abuse. They don't want you to fear doing something wrong if you refrain from handing over assets to what looks like an abuser. But not living in the real world of how to stop abuse by determined abusers has its disadvantages. The new rule tells you who is at risk (elders and other impaired adults). It tells you that you just need a reasonable suspicion of abuse, not unquestioned evidence. It tells you what a temporary hold is and how long it can be: 15 days, 25 at max. Sounds ok. Until you actually know how long it takes for the legal steps to halt abuse.

Here at AgingInvestor.com we see this problem in the world of families and those who want to rip them off, not from inside an institutional setting or financial services firm. The world from here looks different from what FINRA imagines. There is usually no way anyone can stop abuse in 15 days or even in 25. We explain. In a real case, the kind this rule is designed to affect, we worked with family in an unfortunately typical situation of an unscrupulous son trying to squeeze money out of his 90 year old father who had dementia. The advisor had seen the pattern. He knew the son never did well on his own and he had been given handouts from dad for years. Dad, whom we'll call Joe, lived in a nursing home. He needed help with everything and his memory was shot. He was easily confused. Yet his advisor never questioned his ability to effect financial transactions. But when the son, we'll call Jake, brought his frail father into the advisor's office demanding $50,000 plus access to the cash management account, the advisor was sure it was abuse. He knew his client was too confused to disagree with Jake. The advisor dragged his feet and didn't provide the check his client had asked for, pushed by Jake, Over a month later, he felt obligated to give his client the $50K, which of course Jake got right away from Joe. The advisor didn't have Rule 2165 but he knew that Joe's daughter Rhoda was the appointed person as power of attorney and successor trustee. He didn't have permission to contact her, so he did it, as he said "on the QT". Rhoda was upset. She called us for advice. She found us through her own advisor who had the sense to send her to a resource who could answer her questions and guide her.

First we looked at the trust and what it said about Joe being removed as trustee or resigning as such. Two doctor's letters were needed, verifying that he was no longer competent to manage finances if he was to be removed as trustee. We advised her to get those letters asap. Rhoda lived out of state from Joe. She found the doctors and flew into town to take him to the appointments. Fortunately the doctors were able to say that Joe had indeed lost his capacity for handling his money. A couple of weeks after the appointments, Rhoda got the letters she needed. She then had to take them to Joe's estate planning attorney, who met with her and eventually gave her a Certificate of Trust, showing that she was now the successor to Joe and was in charge of his money. She then had to get the Certificate to his advisor's firm, which had to review it and after two weeks, they accepted it. Only then was Rhoda able to stop any further disbursements from Joe's account without her permission. Her brother was furious. His gravy train had stopped. The advisor had sent a debit card for the cash management account Joe requested under pressure to Rhoda, not to Joe. Rhoda destroyed it. Abuse stopped in its tracks.

Reality check: this scenario of stopping abuse involved a lawyer, an elder willing to go to two doctors, the cooperation of two doctors, travel between states, the approval of the Certificate of Trust with Rhoda's name on it through a process by the advisor's firm and a lot of time spent by Rhoda. The entire matter of protecting Joe from abuse took three months. Rule 2165 supposedly authorizes advisors to "take immediate action" when abuse is reasonably suspected. What is myth rather than reality is how long it takes to actually protect the elder and stop a predator. This was a case of undue influence by Jake who had a history of manipulating his father. And the new rule would not have helped at all. Jake would have happily waited for a mere 15 days to get his hands on the cash. Rhoda couldn't possibly get Joe removed as his own trustee without the doctors' letters. This sort of prerequisite of needing doctors to verify incapacity is commonly required in typical trusts. Perhaps the drafters of Rule 2165 never had to go through the process described here in their own lives. If they had, the new rule would provide for a 90 day authorization to hold transactions, rather than a maximum of 25 days. Maybe going forward when the myth gives way to reality, the rule will be revised. For now it is inadequate.

 

Dr. Mikol Davis and Carolyn Rosenblatt, co-founders of AgingInvestor.com

Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder Law Attorney offers a wealth of experience with aging to help you create tools so you can skillfully manage your aging clients. You will understand your rights and theirs so you can stay safe and keep them safe too.

Dr. Mikol Davis, Psychologist, Gerontologist offers in depth of knowledge about diminished financial capacity in older adults to help you strategize best practices so you can protect your vulnerable aging clients.

They are the authors of "Succeed With Senior Clients: A Financial Advisors Guide To Best Practice," and "Hidden Truths About Retirement And Long Term Care," available at AgingInvestor.com offers accredited cutting edge on-line continuing education courses for financial professionals wanting to expand their expertise in best practices for their aging clients. To learn more about our courses click HERE