Apr 3, 2017 | aging, aging investor, Alzheimer's disease, diminished cognition, elder investor, elderly, investor, senior investor
Have you ever found yourself in a situation with an older client who can’t seem to remember anything any more? You may have known the client over a number of years and feel responsible. But you are at a loss now. What are you supposed to do with this client? She’s pleasant and just loves you. But you are worried.
You are pretty sure your client is experiencing a slow, but steady cognitive decline. She has a daughter in another state but maybe she isn’t paying attention to what is going on with mom. She has a son she’s not close to, though he lives in the same area she does. You asked her once if she had someone to be her agent, her power of attorney. She hadn’t gotten around to that yet.
No one acts. No one insists that your client choose a relative or friend and sign the Durable Power of Attorney document. She says he doesn’t want to talk about it and you just back off and never mention it again. You suspect she may have Alzheimer’s disease, from your experience with your own family member.
Here is what can happen to your client.
She steadily loses judgment about what is a good thing to spend money on or invest in; therefore, bad decisions happen. We have observed savvy and intelligent clients who were once financially comfortable start falling for obvious scams. They buy worthless coins or stamps or fly-by-night property investments that take their money and disappear. Perhaps no one knows because the elder is in the secrecy habit. Time passes and the client’s cognitive ability declines even more. There is no stopping dementia caused by Alzheimer’s disease. The predators find an easy mark. As long as there is cash to spend or credit cards to run up, the elder keeps getting into deeper and deeper trouble. Unquestionably, financial decimation can result.
These situations are real. Here at AgingInvestor.com, we’re in the consulting business. We have talked to the families of elders who have probably been impaired for years, hearing them say they wished someone had done something sooner. No one but the financial professional knew what the client had nor where his money was going. The family thought the elder’s finances were fine. Now, with too much drained out by excessive giving, the family may well end up having to support their aging relative just at the time when extensive care is needed and the expense of it skyrockets.
How do you prevent the worst? By engaging in discussion with your client’s family or appointed other early in your relationship. If you have an ongoing connection with that trusted person in your client’s life, you stand a better chance of protecting her from dumb and destructive decisions if her mind starts to go, later on in life. Even if you can’t imagine how a perfectly alert, intelligent person could get dementia, it happens to millions of people as they live longer. 5.6 million of them are diagnosed with the disease right now in the U.S. alone. The risk rises with age.
If you have never had conversations with your older clients’ families, now is the time to start. You need to educate your client about the importance of having someone else named by her for you to reach out to if she gets sick or has an accident.
You need to develop the skill of conducting family meetings while each client is fully competent. Even if a client has a few memory lapses now it is not too late to have a meeting with family to figure out the path forward in case of trouble ahead. This is a “soft skill” every advisor needs. If you want to learn how to conduct a family meeting or get better at this, you can learn the techniques in a hour.
Putting these skills to work takes some practice. It is especially important to know what to do when a client’s family is difficult, or there is a history of conflict among them. That’s tricky and you will need some outside help. Get a one hour accredited crash course on conducting successful family meetings by clicking here.
By Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder Law Attorney, & Dr. Mikol Davis, Gerontologist co-founders of AgingInvestor.com
Mar 27, 2017 | aging, aging investor, diminished cognition, elder investor, elderly, financial advisors, investor, senior citizen investor, senior investor
How good are you at spotting the telltale signs of diminished capacity in an older client? Many older people have a bit of difficulty remembering. We often dismiss this when we see it, thinking it’s “just getting old”. It may be part of aging, as we do process things more slowly as we age and recall may take longer. But, there is a point when a problem recalling things should be a red flag for diminished capacity for you, the advisor. What are those red flags anyway? How do we label them? There are numerous signs of diminished capacity, more extensive than this article allows, but we’ll look at one category, which we call cognitive signs. Here’s a breakdown of what you should look for when your client has a lot of difficulty remembering things.
What to note and document about memory loss
This is one of the first things most advisors may notice in a client that causes concern. Perhaps she does not remember important meetings, decisions and discussions. Here are some examples of what you may see: Multiple telephone calls in one day that are repetitive and do not make sense. The client forgets that she has already talked with you and is calling about the same thing in another call to you. She repeats a question she already asked you and that you already answered. Client forgets why he has an appointment with you. This can be by telephone or in person. Perhaps the client himself asked for the meeting but then he forgets why. Or perhaps you wanted to discuss a proposed transaction with him and told him that, but when you call or he comes into your office, he has no idea why he is there. Trying to refresh his memory about it does not help. Complete forgetting of an event that just took place. You just spent a hour with your client telling her some important information about upcoming changes to her portfolio. She seemed to understand when you were talking but an hour later she asks you questions as if the meeting you just had never took place. She had totally forgotten about it. No shows. You have arranged meetings, appointments with others or events that require your client’s participation. He agrees on the pre-arranged date and time but then does not show up. When you call him, he has no recollection of the event, that others are involved nor that he had agreed to this.
If your client demonstrates any of these indicators you need to be paying close attention and make an effort to contact your client more often than you did before you noticed these problems. Any or all of them might be warnings of developing dementia. There could be other reasons for memory loss, but you won’t know unless you are keeping good records. The only way to determine if you have a serious problem here is to track these signs over time and document each instance you see. If the problem gets worse, it is time to take it to the next level. In your organization that might mean escalation, or having the documentation reviewed by a committee. Ideally, as we see it, the next step should include contacting the client’s appointed trusted third party who would step in when the client became impaired. To learn more about diminished capacity and just what you should do about it, click here. An hour of accredited learning on the course Best Practices for Clients With Diminished Capacity will make you a lot wiser in your approach.
By Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder Law Attorney, & Dr. Mikol Davis, Gerontologist co-founder of AgingInvestor.com
Mar 20, 2017 | aging, Alzheimer's disease, diminished cognition, financial capacity, senior investor
Diminished capacity is sort of a catchall term that can mean different things. A person can have the capacity, for example to create a will or a trust, but at the same time that person might not have the capacity to understand the risks of buying a complex financial investment. Capacity is on a continuum. The more sophisticated the decision needed the more capacity it takes.
Is there any way to measure capacity? Is there a blood test or any other test? We have a number of things in the medical field that help give us clues and data, but there is no one, single thing that tells us for sure. We can’t see inside a person’s thoughts. What we do have is testing of the various areas of the brain, with standardized instruments, that give us information about how a person thinks. We call it neuropsychological testing.
What is neuropsychological testing?
Neuropsychological testing (using groups of related paper and pencil and verbal question and answer tests) can provide useful information to take the question of capacity outside the realm of speculation. Test data provides numbers, scores, something specific.
This kind of testing can give useful information about which tested parts of a person’s cognitive function do or do not compare normally with the tested function of people of similar age and education. When a person falls below a measure of what is normal, and we have test scores to tell us where and how, it can give us guidance about whether to allow a person to keep making financial decisions.
Testing is underused in helping us find out about a person’s mental capacity for numerous kinds of things, such as memory, following verbal instructions, understanding information and learning a new task. Not enough families know about it and request it and not enough others refer clients to the right source for considering it as a tool to give us more information. Perhaps older people resist it out of fear not “passing the test”. If clients secretly know that they are losing their memory and do not want to be found out, they will strongly resist any suggestion of testing.
What can the advisor do?
If you are worried about a client who seems to be “losing it” and you aren’t sure you have enough information about that, you can suggest that the client get a medical checkup, and that he ask the doctor to check into his memory. This is not a sure path to neuropsychological testing, to be sure. Unfortunately, doctors spend very little time with patients these days and a brief visit may not result in the follow-up testing you would like to have done. But in some cases, clients are willing, particularly when encouraged to do so by a concerned spouse or other family member. In spite of obstacles, know that this objective way of measuring things does exist and it can help everyone involved in the senior’s life.
The client’s primary care doctor may refer your client to a neurologist. The neurologist may prescribe this testing which is done by a licensed psychologist or neuropsychologist, who gives the results back to the neurologist.
You’re not a doctor. But you don’t have to be one to see the red flags of diminished capacity. If you are not sure just what to look for, learn all you need to know in an hour by clicking here. Learning best practices for diminished capacity can help you right away.
By Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder Law Attorney & Dr. Mikol Davis, Gerontologist co-founders of AgingInvestor.com
Mar 13, 2017 | aging, Alzheimer's disease, diminished cognition, elderly, finances for elders, handling money for aging parents, long term care, seniors finances
All his life Philip worked hard and was successful. He amassed wealth beyond expectations. He gave generously to all of his kids, buying them homes and bestowing money gifts. In fact giving kids money was the only way he really knew how to show he cared. Expressing love in other ways was not his thing. He and his wife lived a luxurious lifestyle: country club, exotic vacations, lavish parties, fancy cars. She ran the house and he ran the flourishing business.
It all looked great when he retired. Until his wife developed Alzheimer’s disease. Things began to fall apart when he was78, with a wife becoming increasingly dependent and in need of care. He wasn’t used to running the house. Things descended into disrepair. Then his vision got cloudy and his hearing started to go.
He expected his adult children to step up and be there. But entitled kids, used to having Dad hand them things without having to work for them, never did take much responsibility. If they needed something, Dad would just buy it for them. Now Dad needed more from them but none of them had ever learned about giving back. Communication was poor. If the conversation wasn’t about money, no one had much to talk about.
Things broke down among the family members. They were never good at talking to each other or to their parents about anything of substance. Now that the parents were both in need of help they could not rely on their adult children to work on household management, or budgeting for care or doing needed repairs.
Philip found himself depressed. He looked at what he had created, all the wealth, all the things and somehow he felt a loss. Financial success had not led to family success.
But he decided to act. He decided that this part of his life was going to be meaningful before his end and he set to work.
He gathered his adult children in his home for a meeting. He was frank with them and revealed how sad and disappointed he felt. He revealed his fears, something he had never done. He told them he expected more from them. The kids looked at each other somewhat sheepishly. They admitted that they had been off in their own worlds. They told their father how much they wanted to be closer but just didn’t know how. They asked him to be open to telling them he loved them. He asked them to express more caring by showing up and pitching in. The paid caregivers for the parents were great but they were not there all the time.
Agreements were made. Some stumbling and awkwardness happened at first. But as the next month passed, the kids finally started to show up with a schedule. And empty talk was replaced by family history, expressions of thanks and acknowledgment to each other of the changes they were making.
The last years for Philip were much better. He was able to express his feelings in ways he had never done before. Maybe age just made him not care about what people might think. It had a profound effect on his family. All of them grew closer, in spite of their differences. They learned to accept each other far better, led by Philip.
Philip passed away in peace at age 84. His story is one to share with any child who grew up in wealth and any parent who did not expect enough of the kids in a younger day. Adult children can learn to give more to parents as they age and become more vulnerable. Parents can learn to express love and affection apart from cash and objects. It’s not too late in your advanced years to change for the better.
Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder Law Attorney, & Dr. Mikol Davis, Gerontologist co-founder of AgingInvestor.com
Mar 6, 2017 | aging, elderly, long term care
I recently saw an article about retirement planning, describing that one should consider where nursing home care is the most affordable and think about moving there. As if it were in the category of nicest cities to retire in or best recreational opportunities. I am appalled when I see these comments. For openers, no one I’ve ever met would choose a nursing home for long-term care if any other possible option were available. If a client can afford any other arrangement, try planning for that. Consider home care, adult day services, home health agencies and whatever long term care insurance can cover. Never tell them to plan for a nursing home.
There are of course good, well-run nursing homes where long-term care is delivered competently and with skill. Unfortunately there are a lot of other nursing homes where the opposite is true. In my opinion as one who has worked in them as an aide and an RN and who has sued a few as a lawyer, I can only urge caution. They can be dangerous places.
In our society, we do not have special nursing homes for elders who were, at an earlier time in life, convicted of serious crimes. We do not have special nursing homes for those who suffer from mental illness. If the resident does not have mental symptoms serious enough to be placed in a mental hospital, particularly if skilled nursing care is needed for physical conditions, the mentally ill elderly are in the same place as your Grandma, your client or anyone else. Many people with dementia are also cared for in nursing homes. Some have separate units for dementia care but others do not. There are behavior issues with these residents that can and do affect other residents.
Nursing homes are referred to as “skilled nursing facilities” (SNFs), long-term care facilities, rehab facilities and care homes. No matter what you call them, good care can happen and danger may lurk as well in any of them.
Planning for long term care is an essential part of planning for retirement. Nearly 70% of us are going to need that care at some point. If your client needs full time 24/7 care in the future, plan for the possibility of paying for it at home. Many aspects of care, including skilled care can be delivered through licensed home health agencies. Planning for a last resort that is risky does not seem the best way to plan for one’s later years.
Here are three reasons why you should avoid telling your client to live where there are affordable nursing homes. That assumes that your client would have to accept living in one.
- Abuse from other residents
A recent study of New York nursing homes conducted over one month found that, conservatively, one in five nursing home residents are the victims of abuse by other residents. Rates of abuse were significantly higher when nurse aides have a higher numbers of residents to care for and in dementia units. Most of the abuse was verbal, but some involved hitting (11.3%) or pushing (10.3%) and a smaller percent that were sexual.
- Overuse of antipsychotic drugs
The Independent Drug Information Service reports that antipsychotic medications are often overused in older patients in nursing homes, and they increase risk of death and can cause substantial side effects.
- Risk of eviction if a client outlives her assets
An expert in the field is Pat McGinnis, Executive Director of California Advocates for Nursing Home Reform. She sees long term care residents who are out of money being tossed out of some homes in favor of residents who can pay the high cost of living there. She stated “there is an epidemic of illegal and unsafe evictions from nursing homes throughout the state and this (referring to an eviction case) is perhaps the worst case I have ever seen. Nursing homes increasingly focus on higher paying therapy residents at the expense of poorer long-term or ‘custodial’ residents. When residents threaten this profit-making model, they all too often are thrown out illegally.”
There is no question that the complexity of some medical conditions and the need for skilled nursing around the clock makes it necessary for some older folks to live in nursing homes. Every person who plans to retire and is realistically looking ahead must recognize that she may need help one day and that help might get very expensive.
Any professional discussing retirement assets, spending, budgeting and how to stretch a client’s money over many years of retirement should include the discussion about the last years and the cost of care. I am an advocate for using every conceivable alternative to nursing homes for planning purposes. Although a few are innovative and patient-centered, too many look and feel like a hospital, not a place to stay long term. Do your best planning to keep your clients at home with long-term care in place.
by Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder Law Attorney, & Dr. Mikol Davis, Gerontologist co-founders AgingInvestor.com
Feb 27, 2017 | aging, long term care
You’re in the planning business. You look ahead, analyze, budget and calculate. But your clients may not be on the same page in your view of the future, especially when they retire. They are busy being in denial that they may ever get ill and die. You can help them. In doing so, it may also make your job of talking about such issues as long-term care, budgeting and spending easier.
Many of us in this society have a very negative image about aging in general. We don’t want to be “old”. It is fueled by advertising on TV, movies, print media and other outlets with a consistent message: aging is bad, being younger and turning back the clock is good. We are a work ethic driven culture. When we are older and no longer “productive” we are generally seen as less valuable.
Then there is the fear and denial about dying and death. Our culture has been called the only one in the world that thinks of death as something optional. Note how we talk about it to family–“in case anything ever happens to me…” Besides it being a fantasy that maybe “something” won’t happen to us, it keeps us from planning, from preparing our loved ones and from being responsible about our older years, possible declining health and the burden ignoring these things can put on our families. Reaching retirement age is a time to do planning about more than money.
Most people do not want to burden their loved ones. Most of them do not want to trouble adult children unnecessarily as they age. That is your best selling point for bringing up some important personal matters. These include how every senior and every retiree needs to plan for things in their own lives that go beyond how much money they’ve saved and how it will be spent having a great retirement. Has your client signed a Durable Power of Attorney document? Given the family all they would need in an emergency? Talked about who should keep the records and stored information all the heirs would need if your client becomes impaired? These are not about money particularly. These subjects are about responsibility and life cycle.
Here at AgingInvestor.com we see the messes people leave behind when they nurture the Great American Fantasy that losing independence won’t happen to them and that they will live happily to age 100 and die peacefully in their sleep. Family members can spend years cleaning up the disaster their older loved ones leave because of failure to plan and simply provide access to information. It is truly not fair to anyone. It leads to anger, resentment, family conflicts and sometimes to loss of wealth through ignorance. We’ve heard it and seen it countless times.
To empower every retiree, we put a retiree’s checklist together to help people avoid these disasters created by the fantasy. We want you to help them use it.
How can you do this?
You can give your clients this checklist next time you sit with them and review the portfolio. You can gently urge them to do what the list says is needed. We’ve broken down the essentials into 10 points, a “to do” list if you will. You can encourage them to take care of the items on the list, if they haven’t already. In general, the to do list includes updating the estate plan, having critical documents in the right hands, providing necessary financial, computer and account information to trusted family and having a family meeting to educate one’s heirs about the older person’s affairs. This is how your client gets a family ready. This is how they avoid unduly burdening anyone. This is how they free their loved ones from distress and unnecessary work when they have to take action as an aging parent declines and passes away.
Some of your clients will brush off your suggestion. They love that Great American Fantasy and aren’t about to give it up. Others will thank you as they have thanked us and will go forward. Their families will be forever grateful. You’ll look like the caring, smart and responsible planner that you are. Get your free Smart Retiree’s 10 Point Checklist now by clicking here.
By Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder Law Attorney, & Dr. Mikol Davis, Gerontologist co-founder of AgingInvestor.com
Feb 20, 2017 | aging, Alzheimer's disease, diminished cognition, elder investor, elderly, financial advisors, handling money for seniors, senior investor
Every profession is facing a common dilemma: what to do about your own impaired colleagues. When there is no mandatory retirement age, there is no one to say, it’s time to quit. Do you think a colleague has dementia?
People are living longer than ever, continuing in their work longer than ever and sometimes they start to “lose it” before they decide to retire. As none of us are absolutely immune from Alzheimer’s or other dementia, or anything that causes cognitive decline, we all need to consider what we would want if it happened to us.
Would you want a friend or colleague to tell you that you’ve got a problem with memory and maybe it’s time to hang it up and rest? Would you want your legal department to embarrass you and tell you to stop handling other people’s money because everyone knows you’re no longer competent? It’s a frightening thought.
Longevity can be great, but not when you are impaired. As a consultant with expertise in aging, I have seen cognitive impairment to a dangerous level in numerous professionals. One was a trial lawyer colleague, high profile and famous. No one stopped him from practicing law until he had nearly destroyed things. I have seen it in a business owner who founded his company and had been going to the office for 50 years. He was kicked out of his favorite restaurant and was physically harassing employees, his Alzheimer’s had gotten so bad. No one made him stop until outsiders (myself and my partner, Dr. Davis) came in and created a plan to prevent him from entering the office again.
I have seen a judge with dementia fall asleep on the bench in the middle of lawyerly argument in court.
I spoke with the sister of a former bank president who had become a financial advisor. He had lost most of his wealth because he could no longer keep track of it and he was being taken advantage of. He was living in squalor before family intervened. During that time, he was still working as a wealth manager.
These are real cases. The message is that we need a strategy and a policy in any office with advisors who work into their senior years, to address the possible impairment that might occur.
There is a way to do this so as not to needlessly embarrass the affected person. There is a way to require that a person with memory loss confirmed by colleagues should step down and give up managing anyone’s assets. This should thought out in every office. Clients need protection. It takes construction of a reasoned policy to address the impaired advisor confidentially by first requesting retirement and then mandating retirement if the advisor refuses to go along.
Pilots have a mandatory retirement age of 65. That would not work for many other kinds of professionals. But something has to be done. If you want some concrete action steps to put in place in your office, you will find them in our book, Succeed With Senior Clients, A Financial Advisor’s Guide to Best Practices. Get your copy today by clicking here.
By Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, elder Law Attorney, & Dr. Mikol Davis, Gerontologist co-founder of AgingInvestor.com
Feb 16, 2017 | aging, financial advisors, financial capacity, financial elder abuse, financial judgement, handling money for seniors
You may have an older client who has an adult child living in their home. We are not talking about co-housing or multi-generational households folks choose for a variety of sensible reasons. This is not about the daughter who gives up work to move in and take care of your aging client. Rather, this is a somewhat hidden population of adult children who have never quite been able to support themselves.
There may be a mental health issue, substance abuse or other condition which impairs the individual’s ability to reliably earn a living. Some of these adults have never succeeded in the workplace. Others have had a setback of some kind and never were able to regain or keep employment afterward. These adult children of your clients may be middle aged, yet dependent on your client for the basics of life: food, clothing and shelter as well as other benefits.
At AgingInvestor.com, we hear from the families, usually the siblings of the adult child who does work yet who receives free lodging and support from the parent. The common thread is a co-dependent relationship between parent and the “problematic” adult child. The parents may feel guilty about the unsuccessful child, they may be intimidated by that offspring or they simply may lack the courage to insist on some other arrangement. You may be thinking, ok, so what’s the problem? My client is fine. She has good income. She can do what she wants with it.
Don’t draw that conclusion so fast. People are living longer than ever and as clients live on, they may need to liquidate some things to cover their increasing care needs. The family home is one of the things that can be liquidated, especially when assisted living is a better place for an elder client who can’t live alone anymore.
The family may agree that your client’s home must be sold to raise cash to meet caregiving needs. No one knows what to do with the sibling still living at that home. They won’t move out.
Without addressing the issue in advance, this can get ugly. We have seen in the last year alone, several families who were involved in formal legal evictions of the dependent sibling who refused to leave the home. Would your client want that? In other instances, there is a nasty, expensive probate fight going on over the sibling refusing to leave the home even after the parent passes away. The inheritance is held up because the house can’t go on the market.
Isn’t planning for the future your job? These very unpleasant scenes can be avoided with good strategy initiated by you with your aging clients, about the future of that unemployed adult child who has no plan for what to do next. The family needs to explore every option for the needy sibling. Can he or she qualify for public benefits, such as disability or government-subsidized housing? Do the parents have the means to set up a trust to provide for his or her basic needs? Is there any other option for support? Delving into these things takes time. The social services system can be complicated. The time to start talking with your client about her unsuccessful 55 year old son at home is not on the eve of a crisis. The client who has allowed the situation to go on must be persuaded to make a change before that crisis. No one wants to look at this issue but it can only lead to bad outcomes if it is not explored.
Here are three things you can do now:
1. Find out from any aging client if he or she is supporting anyone. That’s basic. Then get more detail. How long has the unemployed middle aged daughter been living in your client’s home? What will happen to her when/if your client has to leave her home or sell it?
2. Connect with your client’s estate planning attorney, with permission of course, and see what planning is done for an heir who is not working and does not have a retirement plan herself. Has your client provided for this need? Is your client’s cash going to be tapped for supporting an adult child? Has a trust been set up and what does it allow for your client to do for the adult child and when?
3. Get advice yourself about what options your client’s adult child may have, should your client become impaired and unable to give her offspring support in the home. The county’s department of health services and department of social services as well as nonprofit community service agencies are good places to start. Encourage your client to think it through and not burden any other children with an eviction case or probate mess in the future.
By Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder Law Attorney, & Dr. Mikol Davis, Gerontologist co-founder of AgingInvestor.com
Feb 6, 2017 | aging, diminished cognition, elderly, finances for elders, financial advisors, long term care, medicare, seniors finances
Probably I’m not the only one who has seen the deluge of ads on TV for Medicare supplement insurance. One that really bothers me though is the bit with the actress saying she’s only in her 60s and “I’ve got a nice long life ahead.” She’s so smug and so sure she’s just fine and will stay that way.
The ad taps into the belief most people cherish, which is that impairments happen to other people and that they will just keep being fine, at any age. People say they want to live to be 100. Their imagination is that they will be perfectly capable in all ways and will not need any help at 100. That is belief, not truth.
What makes a “nice long life” anyway? No one ever wants to think about infirmity and cognitive decline. And yet, by the time we reach that nice old age of 85 at least one in three of us, and maybe even one in two will have Alzheimer’s disease. Not so nice. And oh, by the way, that supplement insurance the actress is promoting doesn’t pay for care if you need it at home long term. Neither does Medicare.
Every financial planner who has a client over age 65 needs to be considering that the “nice long life” that is part of our cultural fantasy is indeed dreaming for most people. It’s not about longevity. That we’ve probably got. It’s about good health in old age. That, we have definitely not totally figured out. As 10,000 people a day are now turning 70, it’s time to get past fantasy and consider how to make that long life a lot safer financially.
Are your client’s assets enough to pay for the care they are likely to need? If not, you, the client and her family must engage in the essential discussion about who will care for the client as she ages and how much it will likely cost. One must do the math. The cost of caring for someone with dementia at home is staggering. And the advisor needs to calculate it. This is not considering the usual figures thrown around about “the average couple at age 65 will spend “x” dollars on out of pocket medical expenses for their lifetimes”. None of those commonly used figures consider what it may cost to pay for a person with Alzheimer’s disease who lives for 7-20 years with the disease. Help from someone will be absolutely necessary for anyone with dementia.
Your portfolio review with a client at retirement is a good time to talk it over and bring up the actual, not fantasy prospects for the future. And here’s hoping you will not be influenced by stupid TV commercials about what the future may look like. Longevity can be wonderful, yes, and you can help make it financially safer for your older clients. A nice long life is certainly possible. And a long life with accessible assets to cover long term home care near the last phase of life is ideal.
Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, elder law attorney, AgingInvestor.com
Jan 30, 2017 | aging, diminished cognition, elder investor, elderly, financial elder abuse, scammers
Imagine this: your aging client is 86 years old, slightly grumpy, and he thinks he knows better than just about everyone else on nearly everything. He’s quite willing to follow your advice, though and that’s what makes a good relationship with him.
Lately, he’s got you worried. He is obsessed with the internet. He spends many hours a day on it and he tells you about this man he met online who has an amazing investment he wants to get into. When he starts telling you about it, it sounds like a scam of the worst kind. You warn him not to do it and he says you don’t understand.
He asks you to liquidate one of his investments you manage. You do it. He tells you how happy he is that he’s got this great thing going now. A month later he calls you and wants to liquidate a lot of his funds to raise some significant cash for his “friend” who has the scammer-sounding “investment”. You say, “don’t do this!” He won’t follow your advice. This is new, and puzzling. What should you do?
Rules tell you that you must follow your client’s instruction and that you are not supposed to reveal his financial information to anyone. Should you call Adult Protective Services? Can you? You are not sure what to do.
Here’s the answer: you are permitted to report financial elder abuse. According to the regulators’ Interagency Guidance on Privacy Laws and Reporting Financial Abuse of Older Persons, which discusses the issue in detail, you are also permitted to disclose this information to protect against or prevent actual or potential fraud.
But what if your client think his internet “friend” is fine even if you are seeing telltale signs of fraud in your client’s interactions with the scammer? You can report the apparent crime in an online form to the FBI as long as you know enough detail from your client. I think anyone who suspects internet fraud should do this, even if it turns out to be some legitimate thing in the end. It probably isn’t. And your client’s money could all be gone if you do nothing. Would that be okay with you?
Financial professionals need to be clear about your role in preventing and stopping elder abuse. Law enforcement can’t always stop the criminals but sometimes they do. No one can stop what is never reported to them. Do not be misled by the misconception that protecting your client’s private information is supposed to stop you from reporting apparent fraud and abuse.
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Carolyn Rosenblatt, R.N., Elder Law Attorney & Dr. Mikol Davis
co-founders of AgingInvestor.com and AgingParents.com
Jan 27, 2017 | aging, aging investor, declining health, diminished cognition, elder investor, elderly, finances for elders, financial advisors, financial capacity, financial elder abuse, financial judgement, handling money for aging parents, handling money for seniors, long term care, long term care insurance, medicare, senior investor, seniors finances
Do you have older clients who seem to be doing really well physically? Some of our aging folks are remarkably sharp and we can all be lulled into a false sense of security with them. This is a heads up warning about a real situation that you can perhaps help clients avoid by a simple step. Bear in mind that your older clients may be alert but still have trouble keeping track of the occasional bill. That can lead to a true financial disaster. Here’s what happened to one person we met at AgingInvestor.com who could well be your client.
Ruth is 88, still quite independent, taking care of herself at home. She does her own shopping and cooking, drives and pays her own bills. Great at her age, right? But when it comes to memory, that’s a problem from time to time. And forgetfulness plus an unforeseen glitch caused a financial nightmare for her. Here is what happened.
Ruth has Medicare and supplemental insurance. That extra 20% the supplement pays doesn’t sound like a lot, unless you have a crisis and have to go to the hospital.
Ruth paid her bills by check each month. But sometimes her mail carrier made mistakes and put envelopes in the wrong box. That’s just what happened with Ruth’s supplemental insurance bill. She didn’t pay the bill one month because she never got it. That was the glitch. Unfortunately that is exactly the month that she had a major health crisis and had to be hospitalized. She never knew that her supplemental insurer had missed a premium payment from her until they denied payment to the hospital for the amount due after Medicare paid the hospital in full. She was very upset and called them but they brushed her off when she told them what happened. She had never paid late nor had she ever missed a payment. They didn’t care. Her bill for the amount Medicare didn’t cover was over $80,000. They flatly refused to pay it.
She tried to call again and again but got nowhere. She sent a letter but received no response. Ruth’s case is not the first time we’ve seen a situation when an older person fails to pay an insurance premium notice either because of illness, dementia, not receiving the bill or other valid reason. Some companies will allow reinstatement of coverage when the amount owed is paid in full. But Ruth’s former insurer has been horrible; clearly to get out of the large bill they would have had to pay. They’re probably happy about it but of course Ruth is distraught.
Now imagine that Ruth is your client. Most write checks by hand for paying bills, as they have done all their adult lives. Lots of people in their 80s don’t use a computer or are only able to do so with many limitations. They don’t use auto debit for paying bills automatically.
There is one thing you, the advisor, can do to prevent a disaster like Ruth’s. Work with your aging client and their family to get them set up so that payments for ongoing, recurring expenses are auto debited from a bank account. This applies most especially to insurance premiums. As long as you are overseeing the finances for these older clients, think about this simple preventive strategy you can urge them to use to protect their financial safety. Sometimes no one thinks of it. Sometimes the family is also lulled into a false sense of security because the elder is so independent in other ways. Bill paying is a vulnerability and you can think of measures to make it less so.
That medical bill coming to a client because of a simple error, forgetfulness, or glitch can be a source of extreme stress. Take the time now to talk with your client about the prospect of auto pay for all of their recurring bills. Even if they are unsure of how to set it up, a family member, a friend or money manager can offer to do this for them. It’s a small, basic measure but hugely helpful to prevent financial loss
Jan 16, 2017 | aging, finances for elders, long term care, long term care insurance, medicare
Are you doing retirement planning with your clients? Do you understand the real dollars involved in long term care? It goes way beyond out of pocket medical expenses for Medicare premiums, supplemental insurance and medicines. You need to help them free up enough to pay for it.
We are indeed living longer now due to advances in medicine and technology but what is the condition we’re in with longevity? It’s not true that we’re living healthier than the prior generation.
No one wants to talk about the reality that things like obesity, in 30-35% of Boomers are going to affect whether they need to pay for lots of things Medicare does not cover. Obesity is frequently associated with significantly greater risk for heart disease, strokes and diabetes. Boomers have the highest rates of obesity of any age group in the U.S. If you want to pick conditions that are most likely to result in the need for long term care, all of these are among them.
Retirement planning can be very tricky when it comes to considering the cost of long term care. Most people don’t want to have a conversation about what would happen if they became disabled. Most would rather change the subject quickly if the issue of possible diminished capacity is raised. “That’s NOT going to happen to me!” is the expected response. But the risk is real, and there are plenty of statistics to support an analysis of what it costs to care for a person with disabling health conditions.
According to the Genworth Cost of Care Survey, which comes out annually, 70% of people over the age of 65 will need some kind of long term support as they age. At AgingInvestor.com, we recommend that every financial professional have the latest study on hand and that you share it with your clients when you do retirement planning. Chances are they are not as healthy as their parents were. And what kind of care will they need?
Most people want to stay at home as they age. Many will use home care services to be able to stay at home. Here’s an example. My now 94 year old mother in law, Alice, had numerous hospitalizations for a couple of months, for blood pressure issues, the flu and other problems. She simply wasn’t safe living independently in her apartment as she recovered. A home care worker came in every day for a cost of $25 per hour, initially for 12 hours a day. That cost is not paid by Medicare.
She’s a good example of how we can need care with advanced age even if we do things right. She has always taken good care of herself, doesn’t smoke, doesn’t abuse alcohol, exercises regularly and keeps her weight in normal range. And yet, after illness she needed 24/7 care. The overall out of pocket costs associated with that bout of illness approached $10,000. She’s fairly tough and did recover fully. However at her age that is not what usually happens. Home care could be needed indefinitely at a cost even part-time of at least $20,000 per year.
The extra $20,000 a year any less resilient elder could need is for someone who has neither heart disease nor diabetes. Chronic illnesses put a person at even greater risk of needing expensive care. Full time around the clock help can run $250,000 per year and up, depending on geographic area market rates.
Here’s the takeaway: Expect that anyone who reaches the age of 80 is much more likely than not to need cash to pay for help of some kind. If your client is overweight or obese, the risk is very high. Ditto if your client smokes. Be sure to plan for making cash available to cover your client’s likely needs in his later years. Most of what is usually required is not covered by either Medicare nor supplemental “Medigap” insurance.
By Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Attorney, AgingParents.com and AgingInvestor.com
Jan 12, 2017 | aging, aging investor, Alzheimer's disease, diminished cognition, elder investor, elderly, finances for elders, financial advisors, financial capacity, financial elder abuse, financial judgement, handling money for seniors, investor, scammers, senior citizen investor, senior investor, seniors finances, wealth transfer
A Lurking Danger You Need To Warn Your Clients About
There is nothing wrong with putting on a dinner or lunch for prospects while you give them a pitch about a product you like. But unfortunately, a free meal brings people out, especially older folks and they become sales targets for unscrupulous people. FINRA, in seeing how these seminars are too often a vehicle for fraud and exaggeration preying on unsuspecting elders, has issued a warning to seniors. You can be the messenger to provide a heads-up for your own clients about this.
Too many unethical people are using the setting of a free lunch to sell inappropriate investments. The annuity scams are notorious for this. And the scammers love impaired elders who are so easy to fool.
As people age, about a third of them will develop Alzheimer’s Disease. Most of the victims of this insidious disease are women. When the earliest signs of the disease emerge, research tells us that impairment of financial judgment is already underway. The predators have no trouble talking a senior who lacks the ability to see a scam coming into buying whatever they’re selling. It happens every day, not just in the free lunch seminar.
FINRA’s alert for investors about “free lunch” investment seminars is specific. Your older clients might not get that alert unless it comes through you. Here’s the gist of what FINRA wants seniors to know.
The FINRA Investor Education Foundation researched people over 40 to find out how many have been solicited with offers for a free meal seminar. 64 percent of respondents had been solicited, which means that the odds are, your clients will be among them. What the research also showed was that half of the sales materials contained claims that were apparently exaggerated, misleading or otherwise unwarranted. 13 percent of these seminars appeared to involve fraud, such as unfounded projections of returns and sales of nonexistent products
Slick and unscrupulous “advisors” and sellers have been at this for years, pitching unsuitable products. They’ve stepped up their game as the population ages. They want every target they can get. An easy way to warn your clients is to give them a one-sheet Client Update we have created for you. Get yours here or by clicking below and send it out to everyone in your book of business. Some of them are older clients and some have aging parents or grandparents who need to know about this.
You’ll look good by showing that you care about what happens to your clients and they’ll appreciate the message.
You can improve your expertise with your older clients in a book written especially for you, Succeed With Senior Clients, A Financial Advisor’s Guide to Best Practices. Get your copy by clicking here.
Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder Law Attorney, AgingInvestor.com and AgingParents.com
Jan 5, 2017 | aging, aging investor, diminished cognition, elder investor, finances for elders, power of attorney, senior investor, seniors finances
Have you ever had a stubborn older client who told you he’d never talk about his assets with anyone but you? He doesn’t think he’ll ever need help in his life and he wants to be in charge. When you suggest a family meeting to let someone else know what to do in case he ever became ill and unable to communicate, he shuts you down. This is all too common.
A consistent obstacle to communication we see in our work is the resistance of the older person to discuss finances with anyone, including their adult children or other heirs. The Great Depression led to secrecy about finances for many, as fortunes were lost sometimes overnight and once proud people became impoverished. Talking openly about money was just not done for those who grew up in this time of widespread devastating and sometimes life-ending financial losses. To this segment of our population, openly discussing money was considered rude, unseemly. Some of these Depression-era survivors remain reluctant to tell anyone in their families where their accounts are, what their assets are and what they want done with their assets in the event of incapacity.
Presumably when you have a long-term relationship with your client, she trusts you and trusts your judgment. That gives you leverage. You may know more about her finances than her family, her friends or anyone in her life. You are charged with the task of long range planning and you look ahead. In doing so, it is up to you to urge your client, gently, repeatedly and with ongoing persistence that she find someone she can trust to appoint to protect her if she has an accident, falls ill, or can’t speak for herself.
Sometimes persistence pays. The power of your relationship is a tool to persuade your client to come around. This is not a situation to ignore just because your client resists. The older she is, the more there is at risk. Anything can happen to her health at any time.
If your client resists, we encourage you to repeat your requesting a week or a month. Do it in a tactful way and paint a verbal picture for her of what would happen if she were no longer able to speak for herself. Tell her how frustrating it would be to have to refer her account to your legal department for a decision about getting a court involved if she could no longer communicate. Tell her how upset that would make you feel. Express your own concerns and make it your problem.
We hope that every single person in your book of business has an appointed trusted other for you to contact. You may well need that and it can be up to you to urge your client to take care of that most important piece of legal business, the Durable Power of Attorney, if she has not done this. Diminished capacity can sneak up on your client and you’ll need help.
It’s a new role you have with the oldest clients. They are living longer than they thought they would and with longevity come the risks of impairment in all ways.
If you’d like to take a little deeper dive into managing clients with diminished capacity, you can get a lot of expertise in a one hour online course by clicking here.
By Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder Law Attorney
AgingParents.com and AgingInvestor.com
Dec 21, 2016 | aging, elderly, finances for elders, handling money for aging parents, long term care, Obama care
The short answer is “yes”, unless every one of them is high net worth. For those who are very wealthy, there will be no effect as they will pay out of pocket. However for any client who lives long enough to spend down everything and to get low on funds the effect will be palpable. Though neither party is talking about what happens to seniors of modest means with the repeal of the Affordable Care Act here’s the hidden truth.
Low income seniors who could not afford the high cost of long term care had no choice when they ran out of money except a nursing home. Until Congress passed legislation called Community First Choice (CFC), that is. This is a bipartisan supported program that is optional for states. It gives seniors and disabled people a choice to remain at home and supports family caregivers. If a state adopts CFC, it receives extra federal funding (6%) to pay for personal attendant services. This funding is critical. States who want CFC must make the initial investment in home and community-based services before they see savings over the long run.
According to the National Council on Aging, eight states have adopted it so far and at least four more are applying for it or are considering applying. With our growing senior population it is right to give elders a choice of not having to go to a nursing home, a fate many dread and fear.
Even though care at home is normally cheaper and better than nursing home care, there is still a bias in our Federal law that compels states to pay for nursing home care, but not home care. It makes no sense. The CFC is an effort to eliminate the bias in the law favoring nursing home care and promote doing what is better for our elders: allowing them a way to pay for home care using family to provide it with financial support.
Repealing the ACA will de-fund this successful CFC program.
The Republican Platform states: “Our aging population must have access to safe and affordable care. Because most seniors desire to age at home, we will make homecare a priority in public policy and will implement programs to protect against elder abuse.”
Really? If this is a priority, how has a helpful program for seniors been ignored in the dialog about the necessity repeal Obamacare? And what about the millions of people ages 55-64 who need health insurance and can’t afford it? Expanded Medicaid and subsidies help them now. Those programs are on the chopping block in the oncoming rush to “cut government spending”.
The elder and disabled adults who need Community First Choice funding and all community based efforts to keep them out of nursing homes are not marching in the streets. They need total care or help to maintain themselves at home. They are not in the news. They are a population without a voice except by aging organizations who fought for CFC in the first place. Any client who spends a fortune on long term care over years and depletes her assets could end up needing Medicaid. Those are the most at risk folks. No matter how skilled you are no one can make money last forever for those who are less than high net worth.
Do not be fooled into thinking that those who relish the idea of quickly trashing Obamacare really are concerned about what happens to low income seniors. These seniors comprise a significant part of our population. The elders with modest means and modest savings who need long term care can’t pay for it. They are the ones being forced to go to a place they don’t want to be.
The Money Follows the Person Program, which assists states in making home and community-based services more widely available expired in October 2016. If Congress is throwing out all things related to the Affordable Care Act, what are the chances of renewing this program?
If you have aging clients who might live long enough to run out of funds, this will directly affect what happens with them. If you are planning for them for lifelong financial safety, consider that much of what formerly was in place to keep them out of nursing homes will likely be gone should they live to be 100 and are no longer wealthy. Be sure to keep in mind that nursing homes are about three times the cost of staying at home with care in place there.
By Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder Law Attorney, Dr. Mikol Davis, Geriatric Psychologist, AgingInvestor.com
Dec 14, 2016 | aging, elderly, finances for elders, handling money for aging parents, medicare, seniors finances
Promises to repeal Obamacare (the Affordable Care Act) abound but “replacement” still appears very murky. Many agree that repealing it is warranted (though many disagree) but few can agree on what replacement would entail. Here is a look at some of the real life effects of repeal, focused on the minimum wage worker. The articulated plans for replacement miss these workers who are most likely to lose health insurance coverage altogether when mandates are repealed.
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, In 2014 there were 77.2 million workers in the United States paid at hourly rates, representing 58.7 percent of all wage and salary workers. Among those paid by the hour, 1.3 million earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 1.7 million had wages below the federal minimum. The average American worker got paid $24.57 per hour, or $850.12 per week. And averages can be deceiving. They lump together those who may be educated with those who have less education and value in the workplace. For this discussion, we focus on those who work full time, at the low end of the wage scales.
Repeal will immediately remove the employer mandate which means that employers who do not care to undertake the expense of insurance coverage for their groups of employees would simply stop covering them. Millions of workers would lose coverage, and be expected to pay for it themselves with so called “health savings accounts” or tax credits.
Those who have announced their positions on this, particularly those most likely to influence what happens after repeal believe that health savings accounts are the answer and that everyone without insurance will then be motivated to save their money and buy coverage themselves.
Reality check: the lowest income workers do not have any money to save. It is not about motivation. It is about living at the edge of poverty. These workers spend every penny of that minimum or low end wage on food, clothing and shelter and there is nothing left to pay for insurance without the existing subsidies. The myth of health savings accounts is that there is, in fact, money available to save so you can pay for insurance yourself. Repeal will mean no health insurance subsidies, which are a controversial feature of Obamacare and one of its main pillars.
Workers who only have coverage through employers who then drop coverage would return to being uninsured. When they get sick or injured, they will not receive treatment, or they will go bankrupt with medical bills they cannot pay. Essential preventive care will not be available as it is now in all insurance policies and minor problems become major health issues, some resulting in death.
Another premise of the as yet undefined replacement plan is that offering tax credits will also motivate people to buy their own insurance when subsidies and the individual mandate, now also main pillars of Obamacare, are gone. As with health savings accounts, the same incorrect assumption applies. Low wage workers do not have enough money to advance for monthly insurance premiums to attain a tax credit at year end. Simply put they can’t afford it at all and a benefit at year end does not create a higher monthly salary for them. The politicians and appointees who want to use health savings accounts and tax credits as replacements for health care insurance subsidies are the same people who vehemently oppose raising the minimum wage. The majority in power will succeed in that.
Ask any minimum wage worker: Do you have extra money left after you pay for your rent, transportation, kids’ needs and groceries each month? They will say no. Anything left buys a child a pair of shoes, not health insurance. They will take a chance on never getting sick, never being in an accident and never having a family member who has a chronic or life threatening health condition. How realistic is that?
Anyone who is working full time and is not quite poor enough to qualify for Medicaid is not in the world of the cabinet picks and advisors who created the fantasy of how it is supposed to be with tax credits and health savings accounts. Perhaps the bureaucrats cannot imagine what it is like to have zero in the bank account after the most essential costs of everyday life are paid from one’s paycheck. Amid that and the force that will keep wages low for the lowest on the wage ladder, where are we leaving so many who work every day but will have no health insurance?
Replacement needs to be thought out in terms of the millions of workers who stand to lose coverage altogether when the law that now helps them buy health insurance is repealed. Keeping coverage for those with pre-existing conditions sounds fine, if you can pay for the insurance premium that is. If you lose your coverage, it matters not whether the insurer would take you with a pre-existing condition. You have to be able to pay for coverage whether there is a pre-existing condition or not. And keeping coverage in place for one’s children until age 26 also sounds fine, but only if you, the worker are covered and can pay for the insurance yourself or you are lucky enough to get it through your employer.
The ACA also expanded Medicaid for those living at and below the poverty line. If Medicaid is shrunk, as some politicians want, so as to “cut government spending” it will destroy the only means the least fortunate have to get any coverage at all. Must we let them die in the streets? No charity in existence buys health insurance for anyone. That is the very reason why Medicaid exists–to cover the poorest among us. As flawed as Obamacare is, that is all there is for over 21 million previously uninsured people. My hope is that better solutions can be found than completely obliterating coverage for so many. Note to politicians: get with it and figure it out!
Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Attorney, AgingParents.com and AgingInvestor.com
Dec 2, 2016 | aging, elder investor, handling money for aging parents, handling money for seniors, senior citizen investor, senior investor, seniors finances
3 Ways To Talk With Aging Parents About Finances
One benefit of the increasing life expectancies for Americans is that more people have bonus years for enjoying the company of their aging parents.
But all is not rosy. Those extended years also boost the odds that parents could go broke or suffer from dementia and be unable to make financial decisions for themselves.
That can leave adult children perplexed about when and whether they should step in and find out what’s happening with their parents’ money, says Carolyn Rosenblatt, a registered nurse and elder law attorney.
“Unfortunately, it’s not always easy to have those conversations,” says Rosenblatt, co-author with her husband, Dr. Mikol Davis, of The Family Guide to Aging Parents (www.agingparents.com) and Succeed With Senior Clients: A Financial Advisors Guide To Best Practices.
“Some stubborn parents just refuse to talk about their money. No matter what their adult children say to them, they put it off, change the subject or tell their children it’s none of their business.”
Of course, many adult children aren’t in any particular hurry to broach the subject either, says Davis, a clinical psychologist and gerontologist.
“They have their own discomfort about it and procrastinate,” he says. “Then a crisis comes up and no one has any idea what the parents have or where to find important documents.”
But Rosenblatt and Davis say it’s critical that these conversations take place so that the offspring can gather information about such subjects as the parent’s income and expenses, where legal documents are kept, and what kind of medical or long-term-care insurance the parent might have.
The success of these conversations often comes down to how you approach the subject, Rosenblatt and Davis say. They offer a few tips:
- End the procrastination by picking a date for the talk. Make an appointment with yourself to bring up the subject at a specific time. An opportune time to schedule this is after a birthday, a family event or a holiday where other family members are together who may share in the responsibility for the aging parents in the future.
- Show respect. Tell your parents you understand and respect their reluctance to discuss their finances. You can even make the conversation about yourself rather than about them. Say that you’re concerned that if something went wrong, you would be completely lost as to how to help them.
- Address their fears head-on. Let them know you understand they are worried that if they talk about their finances their independence might be taken away. You might add that you want them to maintain their independence as long as possible and you’re willing to help accomplish that, but you can’t do it without the correct information.
“Getting past an aging parent’s fear about talking about finances can be daunting,” Rosenblatt says. “But a well-planned strategy for approaching the subject will give you your best chance.”
About Carolyn Rosenblatt and Dr. Mikol Davis
Carolyn Rosenblatt and Dr. Mikol Davis are co-authors of The Family Guide to Aging Parents (www.agingparents.com) and Succeed With Senior Clients: A Financial Advisors Guide To Best Practices. Rosenblatt, a registered nurse and elder law attorney, has more than 45 years combined experience in her professions. She has been quoted in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Money magazine and many other publications. Davis, a clinical psychologist and gerontologist, has more than 44 years experience as a mental health provider. In addition to serving his patients, Davis creates online courses and products to assist professionals and the public with understanding aging issues. Rosenblatt and Davis have been married for 34 years.
Nov 15, 2016 | aging, elderly, financial capacity, handling money for seniors, seniors finances
Interview: Common Challenges in Helping Aging Parents
Hello everyone. Welcome to better health while aging, a podcast that gives you strategies and tips about improving the health and well-being of older adults. We discuss common health problems that affect people over age 60, the best ways to prevent and manage those problems and we also often address common concerns and dilemmas that come up with aging parents and other older loved ones, like what to do if you’re worried about falls or safety or memory or even the quality of a seniors healthcare.
I’m your host Dr. Leslie Kernisan. I’m a practicing geriatrician, so that means I’m a medical doctor specialized in geriatrics, which is the art and science of modifying healthcare so that it works better for older people, and for their families.
Today’s episode features a special guest and we are going to be talking about common challenges related to aging parents. My guest is Carolyn Rosenblatt. She is an attorney and a registered nurse, and for the past several years she and her husband Dr. Mikol Davis, who is a geriatric psychologist, have specialized in helping families resolve difficult issues related to older parents. They have a website at AgingParents.com.
Carolyn is the author of “The Family Guide to Aging Parents” and several other books about assisting older adults with legal, financial, and life issues. She also write a column about aging for Forbes.com.
I have read many of Carolyn’s Forbes columns over the past few years and also read her book recently as I was writing one of my own articles about advance planning for legal and financial issues. So I’m thrilled that she was able to join me today to share some of her insights on how to manage some of the common challenges and dilemmas that families often struggle with.
Carolyn, welcome to the show.
Questions:
- Tell us about your practice and how did you come to specialize in families and aging parents?
- What are the most common types of problems that people ask you to help them with?
- Some common scenarios we can discuss:
- People are sometimes concerned that their parent is losing mental abilities, or becoming “incompetent.” They also often complain that their parent is refusing to talk about the issues and refusing to go see a doctor. What are some of your suggestions to help families resolve this?
- People worried about how their parents are spending money, and/or worried that someone else is influencing the spending (e.g. a sibling)
- People worried about their parents driving
- People who want their parents to plan for decline in the future but the parents refuse or avoid the subject
- How can older adults and their adult children plan ahead to avoid many of these difficult situations? Can you share some favorite resources that are effective in helping people through this?
- For families that have set up springing powers of attorney, there is often a requirement that a doctor or other clinician say the older person no longer has capacity to manage finances or whatever power is in question. But families often say they can’t get the person to the doctor/psychologist to obtain this assessment. Suggestions?
- There is really a lot that families could and should do to plan ahead. If people are feeling really limited in time and energy, what do you think are the most important or high-value things to do, when it comes to older parents who are doing ok now.
- Another angle on this: what are the things that people end up regretting not doing the most often?
- You’ve written a lot about preventing financial abuse of older adults. What are some useful steps you recommend to prevent this from happening, or from causing serious financial losses?
- You have a chapter on helping older parents from a distance, and you write about how you and your husband eventually hired a care manager, in order to have someone close to your mother-in-law. What do you recommend for people who feel they can’t afford to hire a care manager?
- How can families deal with declining abilities, dementia, and physical dependency if there isn’t family to provide care or money to hire someone?
- How have you and your husband planned for your own future? (We can skip this if it’s too personal.)
At the end I will tell people they can learn more about you and your special consultation practice at AgingParents.com.
Oct 28, 2016 | aging, aging investor, elder investor, elderly, finances for elders, financial advisors, handling money for seniors, investor, senior investor, seniors finances
Proving Value to Retired Clients: Creating a Financial Checklist
Many of us in this society have a very negative image about aging in general. We don’t want to be “old”. It is fueled by advertising on TV, movies, print media and other outlets with a consistent message: aging is bad, being younger and turning back the clock is good. We are a work ethic driven culture. When we are older and no longer “productive” we are generally seen as less valuable.
Then there is the fear and denial about dying and death. Our culture has been called the only one in the world that thinks of death as something optional. Note how we talk about it to family–“in case anything ever happens to me… Besides it being a fantasy that maybe something” won’t happen to us, it keeps us from planning, from preparing our loved ones and from being responsible about our older years, possible declining health and the burden ignoring these things can put on our families. Reaching retirement age is a time to do planning about more than money.
Financial advisors are in the planning business. You look ahead, analyze, budget and calculate. But your clients may not be on the same page in your view of the future. They are busy being in denial that they may ever get ill and die. You can help them. In doing so, it may also make your job of talking about such issues as long term care, budgeting and spending easier.
Most people do not want to burden their loved ones. Most of them do not want to trouble adult children unnecessarily as they age. That is your best selling point for bringing up the personal matters. These include how every senior and every retiree needs to plan for things in their own lives that go beyond how much money they’ve saved and how it will be spent having a great retirement.
Here at AgingInvestor.com we see the messes people leave behind when they nurture the Great American Fantasy that losing independence won’t happen to them and that they will live happily to age 100 and die peacefully in their sleep. Family members can spend years cleaning up the disaster their older loved ones leave because of failure to plan and take care of business. It is truly not fair to anyone. It leads to anger, resentment, family conflicts and sometimes to loss of wealth through ignorance. We’ve heard it and seen it countless times. We put a checklist together to help people avoid these disasters created by the fantasy.
What Can You Do About It?
You can give your clients this checklist next time you sit with them and review the portfolio. You can gently urge them to do what the list says is needed. We’ve broken down the essentials into 10 points, a “to do” list if you will. You can encourage them to take care of the items on the list, if they haven’t already. In general, the to do list includes updating the estate plan, having critical documents in the right hands, providing necessary financial, computer and account information to trusted family and having a family meeting to educate one’s heirs about the older person’s affairs. This is how your client gets a family ready. This is how they avoid unduly burdening anyone. This is how they free their loved ones from distress and unnecessary work when they have to take action as an aging parent declines and passes away.
Some of your clients will brush off your suggestion. They love that Great American Fantasy and aren’t about to give it up. Others will thank you as they have thanked us and will go forward. Their families will be forever grateful. You’ll look like the caring, smart and responsible planner that you are.
Get your free Ebook and the Financial & Personal Checklist For Smart Retirees, click HERE.
By Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder Law Attorney, AgingInvestor.com
Oct 28, 2016 | aging, elderly, finances for elders, handling money for seniors, seniors finances, Uncategorized
In all the proposed rules by Finra and the SEC to address financial exploitation of seniors, advisors are urged to report suspected abuse to the local Adult Protective Services or to call the police. Unfortunately that is not always a solution. There seems to be a lack of clarity about how things work. Here’s a typical scenario that illustrates an issue.
Myra is 87 and her daughter, Lexie has been taking advantage of her for years. Myra feels sorry for her daughter because she can’t seem to hold a job. Never mind she has a drug habit. Myra has means and she often gives Lexie “loans” that are never repaid.
Lexie gets a power of attorney from Myra, goes with Myra to her financial advisor and tells the advisor that Myra needs $80,000 for a trip they are going to take. Myra is disabled and never travels. The advisor knows this. Advisor decides after seeing several of these demands for withdrawing Myra’s funds under suspicious circumstances that Lexie is abusing Myra. The total amount withdrawn at Myra’s request is over $150,000 in six months, which is highly unusual.
Advisor calls the police. They refer her to Adult Protective Services. APS takes a report over the phone, asks questions and then asks Advisor to fill out a report form. She fills it out and reports the recent questionable $80K demand and withdrawal and she lists the total taken of $150K. She puts Lexie’s name on it as the person suspected of financially abusing Myra.
APS sends a social worker out to investigate the complaint and to visit Myra at home. Myra finds the worker to be very nice and they chat. “Has your daughter ever pressured you to give her money?” the worker asks. “No”, says Myra. “Do you remember giving her gifts or loans totaling $150K this year?” the worker asks. “I don’t think I did that” Myra says. The worker asks if she is in the habit of giving money gifts to Lexie and Myra says yes, that Lexie is her daughter and she needs some help sometimes. The worker concludes that giving money to Lexie is what Myra wants and the case does not go any further. No one has tested Myra to see if she is competent to understand the consequences of giving her assets to Lexie, particularly since she has two other adult children.
In this case the facts are not clear enough to prove that a crime was committed. APS will not recommend that Lexie be prosecuted because even though giving away money is not in Myra’s best interests, she is assumed to be competent to do so. In this case APS is not solving any problem and takes no further action. If Myra did not want the funds to be given to Lexie it would be different and elder abuse could be proven perhaps. As is there is too much doubt about Myra agreeing to be taken advantage of by Lexie, no prosecutor could meet its burden of proof.
The Other Option
Lexie’s other two siblings were not initially aware of the abuse by Lexie. Their potential inheritance is directly affected by their sister’s actions and when they find out they call APS also. The case is closed and they get nowhere. They are furious.
They consider another option. If there is no crime here that can be proven, there may be a civil case. They contact an attorney who handles civil cases of elder financial abuse. The attorney does an investigation and finds out that Lexie has bought a condo with the money taken from Myra. The attorney successfully proves that Myra was duped by Lexie and the matter is settled by Lexie’s attorney agreeing to sell the condo and give the proceeds back to a fund set up for Myra in case she needs more cash as she ages. And the settlement agreement says that Lexie will inherit no part of the fund. Further, the power of attorney Lexie got is torn up and Myra appoints a more responsible agent, another daughter who now oversees all of Myra’s finances.
With a misunderstanding of how law enforcement works, there is a belief that all one must do is report to APS and somehow, financial abuse will be stopped. But when APS finds insufficient proof, or a wiling victim like Myra, they do not intervene. They are essentially an arm of law enforcement. A civil case is outside their sphere and a civil attorney must be consulted to explore whether one can pursue that possible way of recovering an elder’s assets that have been wrongfully taken.
The Takeaway
The important thing to know here is that APS is limited in what it can do. A criminal case of any kind has to be proven “beyond a reasonable doubt.” Any advisor who wants to keep senior clients safer needs to understand that a willing victim will pretty well destroy a criminal case of abuse. A civil case is a possibility as long as there is an asset (in Lexie’s case, a condo) to get. One should know a competent elder abuse attorney to consult and find out if your client has that choice in taking legal action of if her heirs do.
By Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder law attorney, AgingInvestor.com
Oct 21, 2016 | aging, aging investor, diminished cognition, elder investor, finances for elders, financial advisors, financial capacity, financial elder abuse, finra, handling money for aging parents, handling money for seniors, NASAA, nasdaq, SEC, senior citizen investor, senior investor, seniors finances
Oct 13, 2016 | aging, aging investor, Alzheimer's disease, elder investor, financial elder abuse, investor, scammers, senior citizen investor, senior investor
Lots of sellers of products are trolling for new clients, new prospects and older investors with substantial assets. They use a proven technique that could trap your client. You can educate your clients early and often about the technique, which is the “free meal educational seminar”. These seminars are not, by themselves, a bad thing. Perhaps you’ve even put one on yourself, or considered doing so. But too many unethical people are using these to sell inappropriate investments to older people. The annuity scams are notorious for this
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Oct 7, 2016 | aging, aging investor, diminished cognition, elder investor, elderly, finances for elders, financial advisors, financial elder abuse, handling money for seniors, investor, NASAA, senior investor, seniors finances
Two Things Professionals Can Do About Elder Financial Abuse
It’s vicious and pervasive. It’s growing. It has been called “the crime of the century”. Elder financial abuse, according to a study by True Link Financial, costs seniors in the U.S. over $36B a year. But can financial professionals do anything about it? We say definitely yes.
Most of us have encountered this kind of opportunistic crime at some point, among family, neighbors or friends. When we at AgingInvestor.com present to groups of professionals we ask how many have had witnessed this kind of abuse with anyone known to them. Almost every hand goes up. The question is, what can you do about it?
Many professionals are either hesitant to get involved because they think privacy concerns should stop them, or they want to take action but are unsure about what to do. Let’s clear away those concerns now.
First, remember that when your client gets ripped off and cash is drained out of the account you manage, you are losing fees for those AUM. If that isn’t incentive enough to be involved note that NASAA has already developed model rules which will require that you report abuse to authorities. Those are likely to become mandates soon enough.
Let’s look at two basic steps any professional can take now to improve your response and protect your clients from financial abuse.
Get third party contacts on file
One, you need to get from your retirement-age clients the names of several trusted others whom you can call in the event that you see red flags that abuse could be going on. Remember that family members are the most frequent abusers of aging folks. Perhaps that favorite one, Sonny Boy is taking advantage of a vulnerable parent or other relative. Be sure one of the contacts you get from your clients is not a family member, but a trusted friend, colleague or professional. Age makes all of us more vulnerable to financial manipulation for many reasons. Next time you review an older client’s portfolio, get this necessary information about whom to call if you get concerned and keep it on record.
Get permission from your client to call the third parties under certain circumstances
Two, you need not consider privacy rules a barrier if you have your client’s permission to contact the designated third parties he has identified. A legally sufficient privacy document will help you. This is an area where both legal and compliance departments should assist you to get the right paperwork in order. At AgingInvestor.com, we developed just such a model document, a product we offer to overcome the confidentiality barrier to taking action. It’s part of a senior-specific policy. And you can do it in-house on your own too with legal input. Get one done for every aging client. It resolves the question of giving private information to the designated third party. You will have the ok to act when you need to.
Caution: we do not recommend that you use an informal letter to for your client to give up the right to privacy. Consider that in our society, we use things like a durable power of attorney to give up the right to solely manage one’s finances, and an advance healthcare directive to give up the right to make end of life or care decisions alone. We don’t use mere letters for these things. You need papers that are standardized, formal and that will stand up to scrutiny should anyone question them.
Surely you do not want predators to take advantage of your clients, particularly when they suffer from any cognitive decline. That increases their vulnerability. And the integrity of their portfolios is enhanced by your own vigilance over them as they get older.
Take a deeper dive into the elder abuse subject in our book Succeed With Senior Clients: A Financial Advisor’s Guide to Best Practices. We offer you a handy checklist with the 7 warning signs of financial elder abuse, more practical tips and some true stories of how a financial professional did or didn’t get involved at the right time.
The most forward thinking financial advisors will be early adopters of these means to keep clients financially safer. Be one of those leaders!
by Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder law attorney, AgingInvestor.com
Oct 4, 2016 | aging, diminished cognition, elderly, finances for elders, financial elder abuse, handling money for seniors, scammers, seniors finances
The Emotional Impact of Financial Elder Abuse
When older persons are deceived financially by hose they trust the most, the emotional effects can be devastating. The problem of financial elder abuse costs our older population over $36 billion per year in the U.S. alone. The reasons for this rampant problem some call “the crime of the century” are complex. Many victims cognitively impaired in some way, and are therefore subject to the undue influence of greedy relatives, caregivers, professionals, or criminal predators who strategically seek out older victims. However, not all seniors who fall victim to financial abuse are affected by cognitive decline. Some competent people are seduced by unscrupulous sales pitches promising big rewards. Some are cheated by the Bernie Madoffs of the world and their cohorts who take advantage of seniors who are worried about having enough money. These victims see the pitch or offer as a way to alleviate their money insecurity and they give up their cash to those who want nothing more than to take it and run. Sometimes, the senior may want to get something for nothing or get a “great deal’ with very little perceived risk.
Abusers are not always shady characters or unscrupulous family members. Sometimes they are legitimate organizations that simply find an opportunity to take advantage of someone with whom they already have a relationship. Using a relationship of trust to manipulate an older adult is called undue influence. The laws protecting them from being victimized by undue influence vary considerably from state to state, with some defining it so vaguely that enforcement is difficult. However, whether the law is used to convict abusers of this crime or not, the effect on an aging person is devastating. It is hard enough to realize that one has been duped by a stranger. When one understands that the manipulator is a trusted relative, friend, an organization in which a person truly believes or contributes to, the pain is even worse.
Wanda’s Case
Wanda was eighty-nine years old at the time her daughter, Janis, contacted an attorney. Janis reported that Wanda had been a member of her large church all her life and had been an active participant in the congregation. She had always made modest contributions to the church and trusted all of the other members. But over time, Wanda’s memory began to decline and she got confused easily.The church began a fundraising campaign for new construction. Wanda was asked for a donation, which she gave. Then another request came and Wanda once again complied. Wanda gave larger and larger donations to the church over the next year, with the checks totaling over $100, 000. Janis grew increasingly alarmed, because her mother clearly was in need of help. Wanda was found lost and wandering near the church after one day. The church itself had recorded the incident and a church worker had taken Wanda home. Janis was concerned that Wanda would run out of?money. She was physically ok, but her mental condition was becoming a serious enough problem that Janis believed she should no longer live alone. And Wanda trusted the church, to the point that she did not believe that anyone there would do anything wrong. This was a case of the church using its position of influence over an impaired member to elicit larger and larger financial contributions from her. They took advantage of an older adult who had become lost and confused after church, and they knew it. Wanda could not perceive that she needed care, which was going to be expensive, and that she could all her reserves by these overly generous donations. She was not able to act in her own best interests. She ?believed that she could not possibly run out of money. When her daughter, Janis, tried to explain that she had to stop giving to the building fund, Wanda was incredulous. She simply could not process the reality that she was going to lose all her savings if she kept up the contributions.? She became angry with her daughter for even suggesting that her actions were not right and that the church was out of line doing what it did.
Wanda’s emotional response to the abuse was to be in denial about it. She likely not able to fully process what had happened and felt that Janis was being disloyal to the church. The matter did get resolved. When the church was contacted to meet and discuss the pattern of solicitations they had sent to Wanda and their record of her being lost after church services, they immediately contacted an attorney who put a stop to their actions. Janis was able to watch over Wanda after that and she did obtain help for her. Wanda’s anger at Janis was an unfortunate effect of stopping the abuse. Wanda would likely have been angry at the church had she been able to perceive that she was being manipulated. However, she was cognitively impaired and did not see?the full picture.
The Emotional Impact of Abuse
Undue influence is not the only means of taking advantage of seniors. Any kind of elder abuse can be devastating. Denial is common after older victims discover financial abuse. When a scam is underway, they tend to keep up hope and continue engaging with the scammer. Despite warnings from family, friends, and advice from knowledgeable others, they continue to believe that the big payoff is coming. Or they are unable to embrace that they have made a mistake and trusted an untrustworthy person. Sometimes, even after the evidence of fraud mounts, the victim continues to give money to the predator. They have put their trust in someone whom they very much want to believe was trustworthy. When the payoff does not come, or nothing that was promised materializes, they eventually realize they were duped. The effect is sometimes intense shame and embarrassment. Living with this shame often leads to depression.
Suicides resulting from financial abuse have been reported. Some never recover emotionally from the feeling of horror that they were “so dumb” as to fall for a scam that in retrospect looks a lot more obvious. It damages a person’s sense of self, and sense of being able to trust one’s own judgment. It can go to the core of a person’s self-esteem, leaving the victim with a belief that he can no longer trust himself with anything financial. When a senior loses most or all of her assets and is left impoverished, it becomes a constant reminder of the shame of being duped by someone else. Losing a home can force the person to live somewhere he does not choose to be. That can be with relatives if available, but it can also land him in a Medicaid bed in a nursing home where few would ever want to live out their last years.
Prevention Strategies
No one is totally immune from fraud and financial abuse. Anyone can be victimized. Many a sad tale is told by an adult child of a victimized aging parent that “I trusted my father and didn’t want to question him.” Or, “I thought since my mom was a CPA, she would never fall for that.” Part of the problem is the perception adult children and even some professionals have that certain folks are never going to be abused financially because they are smart, or experienced with money matters. It is simply not true that education or experience protects everyone. Working with older adults puts professionals in a position to be vigilant, to educate about the risks of abuse out there, and mainly to pay attention.
Using Resources to Help Victimized Clients
While the criminal justice system prosecutes the relatively small number of abusers who are reported to authorities, it does not do much to help the victims of abuse. Money stolen from older people is often long gone by the time a predator is brought to justice. When a criminal is prosecuted successfully, the court will order that he make restitution of stolen monies to the victim, but enforcement of restitution orders can be problematic.
What is almost entirely lacking is any resource to help a victim of financial abuse manage the emotional effects of the crime. We simply do not fund this in our justice system. If victimized seniors wish to get emotional support or mental health help to recover from the impact of financial abuse, they would have to do so on their own. The cost is clearly a barrier, though Medicare does provide for psychological services. However, the benefit has limitations. A diagnosis is required for the provider to get payment. And many people attach a stigma to getting mental health help, which is an unfortunate perception that stops some from obtaining the needed psychological support for recovering. If there is a civil case of elder abuse with a successful outcome, and financial damages are actually awarded to the victim as a result, the award may include expenses for psychological treatment for the victim. Therapy is one means a victimized person can learn to cope with the emotional distress, shame, and? humiliation of being taken advantage of by any financial abuser. There is little doubt that those who receive supportive services after victimization cope better and have a better chance of healing from the trauma.
Professionals’ Roles with Abuse Victims
Professionals who work with aging adults in any capacity will likely encounter someone who has been victimized or is in the process of being taken advantage of by another. It is important to know their own community resources to provide information to anyone who may need help. Understand how difficult it must be for the person who has been victimized, and offer a respectful referral to a local resource. Local mental health providers can be found through the American Psychological Association, Psychologist Locator, community service agencies such as Jewish Family Service Agency (serving people of all faiths), the Alzheimer’s Association, or senior centers throughout the U.S. Most offer information and referral to local providers in the senior’s county.
Warning Signs
When suspecting financial elder abuse, those working with them should be aware of these warning signs:
1. The presence of a new “friend” in a client’s life who has an inordinate interest in the older person’s accounts or assets, and who gains access to any of them.
2. Sudden change in a Durable Power of Attorney document.
3. Isolation of the older adult from friends, family, and others close to them.
4. Large gifts to strangers or people they don’t know well.
5. Complaints about having reached maximums on credit cards when this has never happened before.
6. Frequent email or telephone contact with any stranger who establishes a relationship with the senior that seems addictive.
With the effort of those in the community surrounding older adults, we can all take steps to intervene and prevent or stop abuse. If something seems odd to you, speak up, ask questions, step in where you can. You just might be the key to keeping a senior financially safe. And if you learn of abuse in the course of doing business with a senior client, a kindly approach in offering emotional health resources lifts both you and the victim.
BY CAROLYN ROSENBLATT, RN, ELDER LAW ATTORNEY
Carolyn Rosenblatt has over forty-five years of experience in her combined professions of nursing and legal practice. She is co-founder of AgingParents.com, a resource for families, and Aginglnvestor.com, offering educational training and products. She can be contacted at (415) 459-0413, carolyn@aginginvestor.com.
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Journal of Accountancy. 2015. “Emotional harm of elder financial abuse outweighs its financial damage.” www.journalofaccountancy.com/news/2015/jun/elderfinancial-abuse-201512535.html. Accessed January 2016.
MetLife Study on Elder Abuse, www.metlife.com/assets/cao/mmi/publications/studies/2011/mmi-elder-financial-abuse.pdf. Accessed January 2016.
Rosenblatt, Carolyn. 2015. “Protecting Our Aging Parents from Abuse.” In The Family Guide to Aging Parents: Answers to Your Legal, Financial and Healthcare Questions. Sanger, CA: Familius, 284-296., 2015.
“Common Elder Specific Issues.” In Working With Aging Clients: A Guide for Legal, Business and Financial Professionals. Chicago: American Bar Association, 71-76.
This article was originally published in the CSA JOURNAL 66 / VOL. 2, 2016 / SOCIETY OF CERTIFIED SENIOR ADVISORS / WWW.CSA.US
Sep 28, 2016 | aging, aging investor, Alzheimer's disease, diminished cognition, elder investor, elderly, finances for elders, financial advisors, financial capacity, handling money for aging parents, handling money for seniors, senior citizen investor, senior investor, seniors finances
The Inner Workings of Clients’ Financial Decision-Making Ability
Whether you have a lot of older clients or just an occasional one, it’s critical for every financial professional to understand whether a client can safely make decisions about money. It might seem straightforward when your client is able to carry on a conversation, talk about current events or make a joke. You assume she’s fine, but it’s not that simple. Conversational ability can mask a true disabling brain condition we call dementia. It does not reveal itself easily, particularly at the earliest stage.
The insidious onset of Alzheimer’s disease or other dementia can sneak up on a client and affect the ability to exercise judgment about finances. To help your clients, you need to know the red flags of diminished capacity, a basic skill anyone can learn. You can get a free checklist to help your do that at AgingInvestor.com. But beyond that, it is critical to understand just how complex our capacity to make safe financial decisions is.
Research shows us that with the most common form of dementia, Alzheimer’s disease, financial capacity is moderately impaired even at the very beginning of the disease process. By the time a client gets to the middle stage when symptoms are more obvious she is already severely impaired in her financial capacity. No one should be making independent decisions about finances with severe impairment of this capacity.
This financial ability is defined as “the capacity to manage money and financial assets in ways that meet a person’s needs and which are consistent with his/her values and self interest.” It is broken down into nine areas or “domains”. These include cash management, basic money skills, bill payment, and financial conceptual knowledge. The ones an advisor is most likely to see and assess are knowledge of personal assets and estate and investment decision-making.
You may not discuss with your client whether he understands what a money market is but you will be ethically obligated to discuss the pros and cons of various suggested investments and the effect they will have on your client’s overall financial picture. This is the area where older clients with impairment will not be able to process the information you are offering them. When they are affected by brain disease like Alzheimer’s (over 5.5 million people are diagnosed now, with that number expected to rise dramatically) they will not be able to “get it”. You are on dangerous ground if you proceed to recommend or sell any financial product in the face of serious doubt about a client’s financial capacity.
Granted, many financial products are complicated and the average person may not grasp all the nuances. But when you believe your client is probably impaired and cannot understand any carefully worded explanation you give, you are exposing yourself to liability by going ahead with transactions for that person.
How could this get you in trouble? All of the regulatory agencies want you to keep your older clients safer and they have issued guidelines for how to do that. All of them want you to know the red flags of diminished capacity. Financial capacity is the most complex of the kinds of capacity a person can have. If you do not involve a third party to assist the client with financial decisions, you risk a bad outcome and regulatory prosecution. You also risk the heirs coming after you in civil lawsuits, charging that you should have known what everyone else knew at the time, that their mother/father was impaired and you should never have sold that, done that or caused the bad outcome.
This is a very real problem among financial professionals– the failure to recognize and act on the warning signs of diminished capacity. If you are managing a retirement account for that client, beware even more. Acting in the client’s best interest means that you need to understand when the client’s financial decision-making capacity is going downhill.
This article just touches on the complexity of financial capacity. Everyone deserves to have a deeper understanding so you can avoid prosecution or questionable accusations about your recommendations or the client’s investments. When the investment an impaired client went for at your suggestion loses money, you can bet someone will blame you if they can. Don’t set yourself up. Don’t make it easy for them to attack you.
The way around this risk of working with an impaired client is to have your client’s permission to involve a trusted third party as a surrogate decision maker for all financial transactions. How you get that permission is the subject of another article and it needs discussion. In the meantime, take a deeper dive into the nuts and bolts of financial capacity in Succeed With Senior Clients: A Financial Advisor’s Guide to Best Practices, available here. Chapter Two explains all you need to understand about the components of financial capacity. And the privacy question and how to get that trusted other involved is answered in the book too.
By Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Attorney, AgingInvestor.com
Sep 20, 2016 | aging, aging investor, diminished cognition, elder investor, elderly, finances for elders, financial advisors, financial capacity, handling money for aging parents, handling money for seniors, investor, log term care, long term care insurance, senior citizen investor, senior investor, seniors finances
Three Tips For Talking To Your Older Clients About Long Term Care
When you look at an older client’s portfolio, the biggest concern is probably about whether they have enough to last to the end. You calculate the drawdown, the earnings, and you spend time on those figures. But what about long term care?
This is the conversation the client doesn’t want to have. No one wants to think about being disabled or losing independence.
Of course, this is not realistic. You, the planner may not want to bring up the subject because of your own discomfort, or because you aren’t sure what to say, or perhaps because your client dismisses it if you do bring it up. But a competent planner and advisor must do so.
Consider this realistic typical scenario:
A health crisis happens to your client. It can be a fall, a stroke or heart attack, anything that is unexpected. First, there is a hospitalization. OK, Medicare covers that, together with supplemental insurance. A rehab facility is next with therapy and nursing care. Medicare covers that but only to a point. When the elder is ready for discharge, the client and family are told, sometimes a day or two beforehand, that they will have to get help for the aging loved one at home. ”Doesn’t Medicare cover that?” they ask. Unfortunately, no, they are told.
The Cost
So the family members and the client start scrambling to provide help at home. In some parts of the country the cost is about $30 per hour. According to the Genworth 2015 Cost of Care study, the national median price for someone to provide help with bathing, dressing and walking or other hands-on home help is $20/hour.
When you do the math, you realize that even if your client needs just twenty hours a week at the average cost, it will add up to nearly $20,000 a year. That is on top of other, non-covered medical expenses, such as physical therapy when Medicare stops paying, hearing aids, and many medications. And that is just the beginning. Limited hours of home care often stretch into full time care as people who have disabling conditions age.
Some people figure they can spend their assets and give things away so they can qualify for Medicaid. I would not recommend Medicaid as the best way to get quality care. First, one must be really destitute to qualify for it. And the state looks back at all financial transactions for a five year period in most states prior to the application to see what was going on, what transfers were made and if they were honestly done. Second, the care one receives under Medicaid is the most basic, may be of the lowest quality and typically is not what anyone really wants.
If you can prevent that choice, you will. Your client could spend her last days in a three bed room in a dingy nursing home if she or anyone in her life thinks Medicaid is a fine way to pay for care.
The cost for quality care at home can be staggering. In my own prosperous county, with a very high elder population, the cost of 24/7 care at home from non-nursing providers (home care workers) exceeds $200,000 per year. That is on top of the ordinary costs of living a senior has, regardless of care. And she will still be paying her out of pocket costs for other things Medicare does not cover: many medications, other non-covered services, Medicare premiums, etc.
Taking On The Long Term Care Discussion: Three things you should do
- You need to create a plan for how to pay for long term care in the future as part of your job of financial planning and retirement planning. Your client is not likely to ask you about it. Do not wait to have these discussions. Cash for the unexpected need for care could be a major expense. Your client needs to know the facts and figures. Most people grossly underestimate the costs. We have even seen financial industry publications naively state “Medicare pays for most things”. It doesn’t pay for what most people need to stay at home after any disabling condition arises.
- Educate your client about the likelihood of this need for future care.About 70% of people will need long term care in some form in their futures. Failure to plan for it can bankrupt a person or leave them in serious debt toward the end of life. Or some investments could make cash inaccessible when needed.
- Use resources to help yourself understand the real costs of home care, assisted living, and nursing home care. In order to educate your client, you need to educate yourself first. The Genworth Cost of Care study is a good resource. Here at AgingInvestor.com, we also offer tools[1] to help you. Be sure you have something to hand to and to discuss with your client. The need is now for any retiree.
by Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder Law Attorney & Dr. Mikol Davis, Geriatric Psychologist
AgingInvestor.com
[1] The Family Guide to Aging Parents: Answers to Your Legal, Healthcare and Financial Questions, and Succeed With Senior Clients: A Financial Advisor’s Guide To Best Practices and Working With Aging Clients, A Guide for Legal, Business and Financial Professionals. All 3 books are available at AgingInvestor.com and Amazon.com
Sep 13, 2016 | aging, aging investor, diminished cognition, elder investor, finances for elders, financial advisors, financial capacity, handling money for aging parents, handling money for seniors, senior citizen investor, senior investor, seniors finances
Do you consider yourself to be pretty good at managing your older clients?
Most of us may be overestimating what we know and underestimating what we need to know. By the year 2020 nearly one in six Americans will be sixty years old or older. And 10,000 people a day are turning seventy.
If you’re thinking “so what?” consider this: the risk of dementia and Alzheimer’s disease rises with age and the risk doubles about every five years once a person hits sixty-five. So you the advisor, the financial professional with responsibility about another’s finances will have to deal with the risk. Some of your clients are impaired now whether you recognize it or not, and many of you have several clients with some cognitive impairment.
Do you know what to look for with your older investors? Do you know the red flags? And if you spot those red flags, do you know what to do about them? There can be a long list of signs showing that a person is beginning a downhill slide with her thinking and understanding. Let’s just start with one sign most of us can recognize: short term memory loss.
The First Red Flag
Researchers who study these issues tell us that this is one of the very first signs other people see when the older client (or anyone) is starting to lose the capacity to make safe financial decisions. The client may entirely forget a conversation he had with you last week or even the same day. The client may forget her appointment with you or that she had a question she needed answered. By the time you get back to her with the answer, she doesn’t recall asking it. There are innumerable examples of this in our lives, as grandparents, other older relatives and friends start becoming forgetful. When it happens with clients, it is a red flag that warns you something is happening that needs your attention. Why?
The signs of forgetfulness can indicate that you need to track your client more closely than before. That means increasing the frequency of contact, especially in person if possible. Memory loss may lead to dementia, though this is not true in every case. However, memory loss is listed by the Alzheimer’s Association as an early warning sign of Alzheimer’s disease. Clients who have this disease should not be making financial decisions without the assistance of a trusted other. It is far too dangerous for them, as their judgment is impaired.
Documentation
No one will know what you see in your client unless you keep good records of your client contact and your observations. You need to label the changes you see in a uniform way, as should everyone else in your office. Call things by the same terms so everyone understands what is going on. “Short term memory loss” is a good example. This is a term that is in widespread use and typically understood by just about anyone. If you document that, and then see a client six months later, noting that the problem is worse than at the prior contact, you and those who may advise you about what to do will have something solid to work with in making decisions about that client. When you document, give specific examples, such as “client called repeatedly the same day asking the same questions”. And comment that he appeared to forget the previous conversations about that subject.
Then What?
After you have spotted such red flags as memory loss, you need a plan for escalation of the matter to someone who knows more about elder issues than you do. That needs to be a firm-wide or office policy. The decision-makers on the subject of what to do to keep an impaired client safer need to have a solid working knowledge of what steps they can take with you to help your client and protect your organization from costly mistakes.
Red flags of diminishing capacity are things every financial professional must learn and understand. We don’t cover the topic deeply in this article of course, but we do take a deeper dive in the book, Succeed With Senior Clients: A Financial Advisor’s Guide to Best Practices. You’ll find all you need to know in the chapter entitled “Know the Client Red Flags”. It comes with a checklist you can use as a guide on what to look for and the right terminology to document your observations correctly. If you want a “cheat sheet” with the red flags on it, just go to AgingInvestor.com and download your free checklist any time. You can get the book by clicking here.
By Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Attorney, & Dr. Mikol Davis, AgingInvestor.com
Aug 31, 2016 | aging, Alzheimer's disease, elder investor, elderly, finances for elders, financial advisors, handling money for aging parents, handling money for seniors
Are Advisors Miscalculating Retirement Medical Costs?
According to CNN Money, a 65-year-old, healthy couple can expect to spend $266,600 on out of pocket costs for Medicare premiums in retirement. If that’s the advice you give clients about what needs to be set aside for medical expenses you’re missing some major facts.
Medicare premiums are a relatively small part of what it can cost when health issues arise as people age. No one likes to discuss the subject of possible cognitive impairment, but it has to be done. We see it as the financial advisor’s responsibility to bring it up, include medical expenses in the overall financial plan and get the truth out on the table.
According to a Wealth Management article on August 30, 2016, Fidelity Investments did a survey of over 350 advisors and found that 96 percent felt unprepared to help clients who had Alzheimer’s disease. This is in contrast to the reality that a person’s chances of developing the disease are at least one in three from age 85 and above. And we are living longer than ever in history. More centenarians, more Alzheimer’s.
What is the real cost of caring for a person with Alzheimer’s? I interviewed a high end home care agency owner about this question. Many HNW people do not have long term care insurance as they plan to pay for whatever they need out of pocket. Most are not aware of the cost of best quality 24/7 care they could need with their own longevity. In our work at AgingInvestor.com, we have encountered this scenario and have seen what best quality care looks like. It’s not your average home care agency.
The cost for caring for one person at home with Alzheimer’s from that agency is $300,000 per year. The workers are specially trained and well supervised. A care manager develops a plan and the workers take their shifts, prepared to deal with all manner of difficult dementia-related behavior, including violent acts and words, wandering out the door, refusing to bathe as well as those who are unable to express themselves verbally any longer. Non-specialty home care agencies do not accept this degree of client behavioral difficulty out of fear of their workers being harmed.
The ultra HNW client can pay for these costs but for everyone else, the expenses incurred with care for a progressive disease that escalates in difficulty over time could be devastating. The cost of home care is in the category “long term care” an often poorly understood subject among those outside the health care and insurance fields.
If you have clients who are at retirement age or are retired, it is a necessity that you educate them about these risks to their savings. When you work with them on their plans, you need to include the possibility, very real, that one or the other of a retired couple could develop dementia and need expensive home care. If you think they should just go onto Medicaid, think again. Every state has different rules but in all states a person can’t have much left in the way of assets and savings in order to qualify for Medicaid. And most importantly, people typically want to stay at home as they age. The quality of care they are likely to receive on Medicaid for long term Alzheimer’s care is low, and likely to be in a nursing home. No one wants that!
The takeaways
- In developing retirement plans for clients consider the risk that your client may develop Alzheimer’s disease or related dementia. Bring it up and talk about it.
- Plan for significant savings to be set aside in case care is needed, not just for Alzheimer’s but for any long term condition or disabling illness requiring help. Use real numbers, not vague assumptions.
- Do not underestimate the real costs of caring for a person with this kind of dementia. It can last as long as 20 years. Do the math for your clients and show them what they would need to be cared for at home with a long term expensive illness like Alzheimer’s.
The responsibility to know about long term care costs is yours. To learn more about Alzheimer’s and how to spot the warning signs, get a free checklist to get you started at AgingInvestor.com.
Aug 9, 2016 | aging, aging investor, finances for elders, handling money for aging parents, handling money for seniors, senior citizen investor, senior investor, seniors finances
Are you considering the issue of Boomers having to care for their aging loved ones in retirement? You’ve probably done a good job with helping clients be ready for retirement age, but every financial professional needs to consider a massive problem we now face. Our oldest old are living longer than anyone expected and they can run out of resources. Their adult children might have to care for, pay for or take in their aging parents.
Years before, the parent probably extracted a vow from the adult child your client, (typically a daughter) “promise you’ll never put me in one of those homes”. And the daughter, without much thought replied, “Of course Mom. I’d never do that”. How time changes things.
The concept of “being put in a home” is vague, based on largely outdated notions our elders have of ugly warehouses for the poor, something conjured not just out of an English novel, but out of the way things once actually were in some places, long before Medicare and Medicaid existed to ensure at least some care for our elders. We did neglect older impoverished people and place them in poorly regulated homes.
Things are supposed to be better now, with the rise of public benefits, and government regulations over skilled nursing facilities, all designed to keep residents safe and in a somewhat dignified existence. The intended outcome of these regulations does not always meet reality. The cost of caregiving for all but the lowest income in our society is borne by the elders themselves if they have the funds or by their families if the parent has limited means. .
Advisors may discuss with retirement-age clients that Medicare doesn’t cover all the costs of medical treatment that clients themselves may need as they age. But few advisors have the foresight to ask their clients if they anticipate also having to pay the cost of care and out of pocket medical expenses for their parents too.
We have a 94 year old mother in law. She’s in decent health, and has the means to cover what she needs now and in the future. We’re among the fortunate ones. Years ago, we and my husband’s parents made a joint investment that pays enough income for her, now widowed, to live on. She can cover health emergencies, home care, expensive medications and whatever downturns her health may bring. She has savings as well. This is not how it works for the average person in our country. Perhaps your clients are wealthy but their parents might not be.
Some folks solve the issue of what to do by bringing the aging parent into their homes and providing or paying for care themselves. This multi-generation household approach is a cost effective way to house an aging parent with limited resources and cover many expenses that would otherwise have to be borne by the elder who just might be low income by the time they reach the age of 94, like she did in my family.
Bringing in the aging parent to live with you is not a solution for everyone, but one worth considering. If you broach the subject with your Boomer clients, you can get them thinking about this. Longevity is increasing steadily and it is going to affect those whose parents live longer than anyone thought they would. The takeaway here is for you, the financial professional to ask them about it.
Here are some basic questions you should ask:
“Do you anticipate having to pay for support for anyone else during your retirement years? Are your parents living? How is their health these days? What would you do if they got low on funds and needed care? Have you thought about what it would cost to care for them?”
Learn more about how your clients need to discuss finances with their own aging family members at AgingInvestor.com in Succeed With Senior Clients, A Financial Advisor’s Guide to Best Practices. You’ll be doing a great service and prudent planning when you initiate the discussion they need to have.
Aug 3, 2016 | aging, aging investor, diminished cognition, elder investor, elderly, finances for elders, financial capacity, handling money for aging parents, handling money for seniors, senior citizen investor, senior investor, seniors finances
The National Institute on Aging reports that scientists are using magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) of the brain to explore the parts associated with money managing abilities. Can we actually see a picture of this?
The report cites neuropsychologist and lawyer, Dr. Marson. “It’s the $18.1 trillion problem,” said Daniel Marson, J.D., Ph.D., professor of neurology at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, citing an estimate of household wealth held by U.S. adults age 65 and older. “That money is at risk in part because of the cognitive disorders of aging.”
We don’t have a way to pinpoint an exact spot in the brain that would tell us that a person is or is not competent with finances, but the report describes novel efforts using MRIs to find out more than ever about the brain and financial capacity. Changes in certain parts of the brain are linked to loss of financial capacity.
New techniques are providing intriguing data on why older adults—even those who were previously quite savvy about finances—may lose their money-managing abilities,” said Nina Silverberg, Ph.D., program director of the Alzheimer’s Disease Centers at NIA’s Division of Neuroscience.
What does this mean for you and your aging client? It may be one more objective way to verify what you already suspect: that an older client is not savvy anymore when it comes to handling finances. The trick would be persuading a client to get this brain image if you and the family suspect that the client is in cognitive decline. We don’t have the MRI techniques nailed down to verify loss of money making decisions, but that seems to be on the horizon.
Meanwhile, every advisor needs to be aware of the subtle signs of impairment in your client. An aging client who is in the earliest stages of Alzheimer’s for example, is already moderately impaired for making safe money decisions. That means that you, a responsible advisor have in place a clear path to bringing in a surrogate decision maker to help that client. Part of that $1.8 trillion Dr. Marson mentions as being at risk is what is paying your fees. Take prudent steps to protect it.
Learn fast about spotting diminished capacity with our downloadable free checklist at AgingInvestor.com.
Jun 20, 2016 | aging, aging investor, elderly, finances for elders, scammers, senior citizen investor, senior investor, seniors finances
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Carolyn L. Rosenblatt, is a nurse and elder law attorney, along with blogging for Forbes.com and author of 4 books on aging. She is a co-founder of AgingInvestor.com and AgingParents.com
The Fraud Watch Network sent out a press release detailing a new and fast moving telephone scam targeting taxpayers across the country. As many of us are aware, our aging loved ones are quick to fall for these phone scams. Thousands of victims have already lost more than $1million. Please caution your aging parents and others as well.
Here’s how it works:
Fake IRS agents call taxpayers, claim they owe taxes, and pressure them with demands for payment using a prepaid debit card or a wire transfer. They threaten their targets with arrest, deportation or loss of a business or driver’s license, said J. Russell George, Treasury inspector general for tax administration.
The fake agents mask their caller ID, making it look like the call is coming from the IRS. In some cases, even more frightening, fake agents know the last four digits of Social Security numbers. They go so far as to follow up their targets with official-looking emails.
The reports about the scam describe how immigrants were targeted first, and threats of deportation were very effective. It has since spread to thousands of other victims in most states.
Imagine your aging parent getting one of these calls. Unsuspecting, intimidated and wanting to comply. You, as the adult child with more of a fraud antenna might wonder why a supposed IRS agent would call you, as the IRS always communicates with a taxpayer via mail. Your aging loved one might not think of that. When a second call comes in, once again with caller ID masked and faked to look like the police department or the Department of Motor Vehicles, it looks even more like the threat of consequences for not paying is real.
What if your parent really does owe back taxes? They can call the IRS directly at 1-800-829-1040 and get the truth. The IRS never demands wire transfers or debit card payments nor do they use license suspension or deportation as a threat.
Most of us understand that when someone demands payment over the phone by wire transfer or debit card that you should simply hang up. But not everyone knows this, particularly the 20,000 or so people who have been tricked so far with just this scheme.
So, keep your loved ones safe, especially your elderly family members. Warn them about this latest scam and follow up with questions as to whether they have gotten any calls like the ones described here, from anyone posing as an IRS agent. These scams escalate around tax time.
In consulting with families who have elderly loved ones as we do here at AgingParents.com, we often find that adult children want to believe that their parents are still competent and that such a thing could never happen to them because their parents are intelligent, or well educated, or they had work experience in finance, etc. But these clever scum with the fake IRS calls can probably fool even a smart, well educated person because the scheme gets past “filters” like caller ID and knowing the last digits of a person’s Social Security number. This is too scary to ignore.
Not only am I going to warn my 91 year old mother in law about this, but I’m going to ask her to tell all her friends at the seniors’ community where she lives. I’ll let my own adult kids know about this scam too. I hope you will do the same.
Until next time,
Carolyn Rosenblatt
AgingParents.com & AgingInvestor.com
Jun 18, 2016 | aging, aging investor, elder investor, elderly, financial elder abuse, investor, scammers, senior citizen investor, senior investor
Jun 18, 2016 | aging, aging investor, diminished cognition, elder investor, elderly, financial capacity, senior investor
Most of us probably think we know what to look for in an aging client who has diminished capacity. But have you every studied the subtle signs that should serve as red flags for you? Now is the time to learn more. Too many older clients are among us to ignore the probability that some of them will be too impaired to do business safely.
Indicators of diminished capacity will not always be so obvious to you, particularly if you are interacting with a an aging client and you as a professional are doing most of the talking. You are probably directing the conversation with that client If you have specific questions about a transaction, whether it involves a real estate matter, a legal transaction or case or accounting matter. You could miss the signs that your client is beginning to develop cognitive problems. If you are asking your client, “Do you understand?” and he says “yes” that is not a way to test whether he really did understand or not. You will need to do more if any warning sign pops up when you interact with your client.
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Jun 18, 2016 | aging, elderly, financial elder abuse, scammers, senior investor
There are so many scams popping up in our world, it’s hard to keep track of them. The scammers target specific groups, such as older people or people who speak Spanish or anyone they hope to fool. Every professional can be instrumental in helping stop the scammers.
The Department of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission have joined forces to help educate the public. They’ve put out these four tips to pass on to every client, whether you believe they are in a vulnerable targeted group or not. (more…)
Jun 18, 2016 | aging, elderly, financial elder abuse, scammers, senior investor
A judge agreed with Fireman’s Fund insurance company’s retirees who sued the employer for introducing them to “financial education seminars”. They attended, followed the advice given and lost everything. Maybe you thought this only happened to naive older folks preyed on by slick salesmen outside the workplace. But no. It happened to 34 long time employees and retirees of Fireman’s Fund who lost most or all of their retirement savings by being misled into risky investments.
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Jun 17, 2016 | aging, aging investor, diminished cognition, elder investor, elderly, financial capacity, financial elder abuse, senior investor
Your elderly clients are exactly what professional thieves are looking for. They know, from the massive success they’ve had in stealing from elders, that age is the biggest risk elders have that can affect their money judgment.
But as a professional, is it really your business to keep them safe from outside predators? It’s one thing if the person taking advantage is in your own organization or office. That puts an obvious burden on you to act. But it’s the subtle things that you learn from your client about losing money to someone that should get your attention too.
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Jun 17, 2016 | aging, diminished cognition, elderly, financial capacity
Have you ever found yourself in a situation with an older client who can’t seem to remember anything anymore. You may have known the client over a number of years and feel responsible. But you are at a loss now. What are you supposed to do with this client? He’s pleasant and just loves you. But you are worried.
You are pretty sure your client is experiencing a slow, but steady cognitive decline. He has a daughter in another state but maybe she isn’t paying attention to what is going on. He has a son she’s not close to, though he lives in the same area she does. You asked him once if he had someone to be his agent, his power of attorney. He hadn’t gotten around to that yet.
No one acts. No one insists that your client choose a relative or friend and sign the Durable Power of Attorney document. He says he doesn’t want to talk about it and you just back off and never mention it again. You suspect he may have Alzheimer’s disease, from your experience with your own family member.
Here is what can happen to your client.
He steadily loses judgment about what is a good thing to spend money on or invest in; therefore, bad decisions happen. We have observed clients who were once financially comfortable start falling for obvious scams. They buy worthless coins or stamps or fly-by-night property investments that take their money and disappear. Perhaps no one knows because the elder is in the secrecy habit. Time passes and the client’s cognitive ability declines even more. There is no stopping dementia caused by Alzheimer’s disease. The predators find an easy mark. As long as there is cash to spend or credit cards to run up, the elder keeps getting into deeper and deeper trouble. Unquestionably, financial decimation can result.
These situations are real. We have talked to the families of elders who have probably been impaired for years, hearing them say they wished someone had done something sooner. No one but the financial professional knew what the client had nor where his money was going. The family thought the elder’s finances were fine. Now, with too much drained out by excessive giving, the family may well end up having to support their aging relative just at the time when extensive care is needed and the expense of it skyrockets.
How do you prevent the worst? By engaging in discussion with your client’s family or appointed other early in your relationship. If you have an ongoing connection with that trusted person in your client’s life, you stand a better chance of protecting her from dumb and destructive decisions if her mind starts to go, later on in life. Even if you can’t imagine how a perfectly alert, intelligent person could get dementia, it happens to millions of people as they live longer. The risk rises with age.
If you have never had conversations with your older clients’ families now is the time to start. You need to educate your client about the importance of having someone else named by her for you to reach out to if she gets sick or has an accident.
You need to develop the skill of conducting family meetings while each client is fully competent. Even if a client has a few memory lapses now it is not too late to have a meeting with family to figure out the path forward in case of trouble ahead. This is a “soft skill” every advisor needs. If you want to learn how to conduct a family meeting or get better at this, you can learn the techniques in an hour.
Putting these skills to work takes some practice. It is especially important to know what to do when a client’s family is difficult, or there is a history of conflict among them. That’s tricky and you will need some outside help. Get smarter about conducting successful family meetings in our new book, Succeed With Senior Clients: A Financial Advisor’s Guide to Best Practices. There’s a great chapter entitled “Your Client’s Family: An Open Book or Pandora’s Box?“ Click HERE for your copy today!
Jun 17, 2016 | aging, aging investor, diminished cognition, elder investor, elderly, finances for elders, financial capacity, investor, senior investor, seniors finances
Have you ever had an older client who didn’t want anyone, not even family, to know what his assets were? Did you find this secrecy about money to be a problem with a few of these older folks? It’s not so rare.
Everyone is entitled to privacy, of course, and the rules mandate that you not share a person’s private financial information. But what if your client begins to decline in his health? What if he starts to appear as if he’s “losing it”? Then are you supposed to just let him make mistakes and feel constrained that you can’t call a family member or anyone about his health? It does seem that most advisors do nothing until things reach a crisis point.
As aging experts, we think things should be handled differently. When you open every client file, you are not required to get the name of someone to call in case of emergency or in case of need. That is precisely what needs to change. Let’s consider common sense. If people are living longer than ever, their chances of developing cognitive impairment are consequently greater. With impairment, people lose their financial judgment. If you have a client’s trusted contact in the file, you may need it. And you can’t wait until your client is really, obviously impaired. If you do, she probably won’t want to give you anything. That puts you in a bad position. Your client is vulnerable to big mistakes and even to financial abuse. You don’t know what to do. You can’t call anyone and you wouldn’t know who to call even if you could.
Here’s the sensible solution: get the names and contact information of two trusted others for your client when you open any file. And with existing clients, ask them for the contact for two trusted people in their lives at the next portfolio review. Do it across the board for every single client. That way, when any one of them goes on to develop cognitive impairment, or dementia or has a stroke or anything disabling, you are not caught flat. And how do you ask that secretive client for the names and for permission to call when, in your judgment, the need arises? You start by making it your problem. You let the client know that it is now office policy. You politely insist and you get it done.
Not every single client will immediately cooperate. Some will need your patient persuasion and tact to coax them to do this. That is one of those “soft skills‘ you absolutely need with your older clients. A few may refuse your request and you can’t force it on them. But for most clients, the encouragement from you to look to the future may be considered part of your job.
Senior clients can pose a number of communication issues with you besides being secretive about finances. Hearing loss, vision limitations and mobility issues can all make conversation more difficult. What you need to know to hone your skills and keep on top of these challenges is all spelled out for you in our book, Succeed With Senior Clients, A Financial Advisor’s Guide to Best Practices. Check out the chapter, “Tough Talk: Communication Challenges With Aging Clients”. You’ll get those soft skills down in no time! Get your copy today by clicking HERE.
Jun 17, 2016 | aging, elderly, finances for elders, long term care, medicare, seniors finances
Some people assume that we’re all living longer so it must be because we’re healthier, right? We are indeed living longer than ever due to advances in medicine and technology but what is the condition we’re in with longevity? It’s not true that we’re living healthier than the prior generation.
If you help clients plan for retirement, consider that things like obesity, in 30-35% of Boomers, are going to affect whether they need to pay for lots of things Medicare does not cover. Obesity is frequently associated with significantly greater risk for heart disease, strokes and diabetes. Boomers have the highest rates of obesity of any age group in the U.S. If you want to pick conditions that are most likely to result in the need for long term care, all of these are among them.
Retirement planning can be very tricky when it comes to considering the cost of long term care. Most people don’t want to have a conversation about what would happen if they became disabled. Most would rather change the subject quickly if the issue of possible diminished capacity is raised. “That’s not going to happen to me!” is the expected response. But the risk is real, and there are plenty of statistics to support an analysis of what it costs to care for a person with disabling health conditions.
According to the Genworth Cost of Care Survey, which comes out annually, 70% of people over the age of 65 will need some kind of long term support as they age. At AgingInvestor.com, we recommend that every financial professional have the latest study on hand and that you share it with your clients when you do retirement planning. Chances are they are not as healthy as their parents were. And what kind of care will they need?
Most people want to stay at home as they age. Many will use home care services to be able to stay at home. Here’s an example. My now 93 year old mother in law, Alice, has had numerous hospitalizations of late, for blood pressure issues, the flu and other problems. She simply isn’t safe living independently at home as she recovers and a home care worker is coming in every day for now at a cost of $25 per hour. That cost is not paid by Medicare.
She’s a good example of how we can need care with advanced age even if we do things right. She has always taken good care of herself, doesn’t smoke, doesn’t abuse alcohol, exercises regularly and keeps her weight in normal range. And yet, after this recent bout of illness she needs 24/7 care for a time. We hope she stabilizes with all efforts but there are no guarantees. Home care could be needed indefinitely at a cost even part-time of at least $20,000 per year.
The extra $20,000 she may need is for someone who has neither heart disease nor diabetes. Those put a person at even greater risk of needing expensive care. So for the financial advisor, the takeaway message is this:
Expect that anyone who reaches the age of 80 will be much more likely than not to need cash to pay for help of some kind. If your client is overweight or obese, the risk is very high. Ditto if your client smokes. Be sure to plan for assets that will be liquid enough to cover what your client may need in those later years. It’s up to you to educate that client to be realistic about future financial needs.
Educating your clients about issues that will likely affect them is just what the regulators want you to do. You can find out more about regulatory recommendations for senior clients and get ahead of any mandates from them in Succeed With Senior Clients: A Financial Advisors Guide to Best Practices. Get your copy now by clicking HERE.
Jun 17, 2016 | aging, diminished cognition, elderly, scammers, senior investor, seniors finances
Howard, 92, loves women. He has dementia and is legally blind. He likes to give women checks when they tell him their sob stories about needing money. He has one daughter, Missy, who is aghast at his conduct.
After her mother died, Missy felt obligated to try to keep Dad from throwing away all his money. He would use up everything in the checking account and then use credit cards to the max. He got into debt. Missy warned him and warned him, but he just didn’t get it. She had no legal authority to stop him from his stupid decisions about money.
He got a housekeeper, Flossie, recommended by the manager of his building. Flossie didn’t have much money, and needed to get her car fixed. She hit up Howard and wrote herself a large check from his account, which she had him sign.
When Missy confronted him about giving Flossie money, he lashed out and tried to hit her. He had a history of violence and Missy was fearful as well as very angry. Dad had given away cash to five other women before Flossie!
Finally, Missy was able to get the checkbook away from dad and no one else could write checks for this blind man to sign. He was now out of money. She had not taken legal steps to do this before he was broke. Not smart.
Flossie decided she was “in love” with Howard. She assured his daughter that she just wanted to be with him but they weren’t going to get married. Then Howard took a fall, was hospitalized and soon after, went to a nursing home. Flossie kept hanging around. One day, she went down to City Hall and got a marriage license. She never told Missy. She found an officiant for marrying them and had the ceremony right there in the nursing home.
Missy was beyond furious. She had reported Flossie to Adult Protective Services. The worker told her that Howard was “entitled to his folly”. She thought that was just plain stupid. She was advised that she could go to court and get a guardianship over her Dad. But, he had no money left and it seemed pointless by then. It was going to cost thousands of dollars too.
She sought advice at AgingParents.com. Mediation of the dispute with Flossie was suggested. Missy and Flossie both agreed to talk over the problem.
Missy wanted to have the marriage annulled. She wanted Flossie to be able to visit Howard, as he did seem to like her company and he was lonely. Missy and her husband had a suspicious and mistrusting relationship with Flossie, but in a way she was actually helping them by keeping Howard company while they were at work. Flossie didn’t want an annulment. She liked the idea of being married. Apparently, she didn’t consider Howard’s credit card debt. She just wanted to get something from Howard, like his Social Security survivor’s benefits.
The dispute was mediated without involving lawyers or the court. Missy proposed that she would allow Flossie to continue to visit Howard as she wanted. But, she was to refrain from discussing money and would report to Missy. When Missy asked Flossie if she was going to pay her Dad’s credit card bills, Flossie blanched. Suddenly, she seemed a lot more interested in the annulment.
She agreed to Missy’s conditions. A deal was worked out between them with the mediator’s help. Flossie agreed not to tell Howard about the annulment. He had been declared incompetent long before, and would forget what it meant anyway. Flossie agreed to the legal annulment. In exchange, Missy and her husband agreed to attend a “marriage” ceremony between Flossie and Howard at Missy’s home, without any paperwork, without it being legally recognized, and Howard would be none the wiser. Flossie could play married, without any legal consequences good or bad. Howard would still have Flossie’s companionship and Missy was okay with that.
The resolution gave everyone at least some of what they wanted. Before it got as far as it did, however, Missy might have tried other options.
By the second or third time a woman had ripped Howard off, she might have worked on persuading him to give her a Durable Power of Attorney for finances. She could have moved funds out of his checking account and stopped the ripoffs by his “girlfriends”. He eventually did sign one, but it was too late to keep his funds in the bank when he did.
She also could have gone to court for that guardianship. His doctors were cooperative in declaring him incompetent to handle money. Guardianship was a last resort, but it would have protected him. He ended up on Medicaid, in a 3 bed room in a mediocre nursing home. He will likely stay there for the rest of his days. Guess that’s how it works when one is “entitled to his folly”.
I’m hoping that anyone with an aging parent who is like Howard will look ahead. Sometimes, your aging parent makes a string of stupid decisions and you can’t stop them. But sometimes you can stop the folly before it’s too late. If you don’t know what to do, seek some outside advice.
Until next time,
Carolyn Rosenblatt
AgingParents.com
