Jun 17, 2016 | aging, aging investor, diminished cognition, elder investor, elderly, finances for elders, financial capacity, investor, senior investor, seniors finances
Have you ever had an older client who didn’t want anyone, not even family, to know what his assets were? Did you find this secrecy about money to be a problem with a few of these older folks? It’s not so rare.
Everyone is entitled to privacy, of course, and the rules mandate that you not share a person’s private financial information. But what if your client begins to decline in his health? What if he starts to appear as if he’s “losing it”? Then are you supposed to just let him make mistakes and feel constrained that you can’t call a family member or anyone about his health? It does seem that most advisors do nothing until things reach a crisis point.
As aging experts, we think things should be handled differently. When you open every client file, you are not required to get the name of someone to call in case of emergency or in case of need. That is precisely what needs to change. Let’s consider common sense. If people are living longer than ever, their chances of developing cognitive impairment are consequently greater. With impairment, people lose their financial judgment. If you have a client’s trusted contact in the file, you may need it. And you can’t wait until your client is really, obviously impaired. If you do, she probably won’t want to give you anything. That puts you in a bad position. Your client is vulnerable to big mistakes and even to financial abuse. You don’t know what to do. You can’t call anyone and you wouldn’t know who to call even if you could.
Here’s the sensible solution: get the names and contact information of two trusted others for your client when you open any file. And with existing clients, ask them for the contact for two trusted people in their lives at the next portfolio review. Do it across the board for every single client. That way, when any one of them goes on to develop cognitive impairment, or dementia or has a stroke or anything disabling, you are not caught flat. And how do you ask that secretive client for the names and for permission to call when, in your judgment, the need arises? You start by making it your problem. You let the client know that it is now office policy. You politely insist and you get it done.
Not every single client will immediately cooperate. Some will need your patient persuasion and tact to coax them to do this. That is one of those “soft skills‘ you absolutely need with your older clients. A few may refuse your request and you can’t force it on them. But for most clients, the encouragement from you to look to the future may be considered part of your job.
Senior clients can pose a number of communication issues with you besides being secretive about finances. Hearing loss, vision limitations and mobility issues can all make conversation more difficult. What you need to know to hone your skills and keep on top of these challenges is all spelled out for you in our book, Succeed With Senior Clients, A Financial Advisor’s Guide to Best Practices. Check out the chapter, “Tough Talk: Communication Challenges With Aging Clients”. You’ll get those soft skills down in no time! Get your copy today by clicking HERE.
Jun 17, 2016 | aging, diminished cognition, elderly, scammers, senior investor, seniors finances
Howard, 92, loves women. He has dementia and is legally blind. He likes to give women checks when they tell him their sob stories about needing money. He has one daughter, Missy, who is aghast at his conduct.
After her mother died, Missy felt obligated to try to keep Dad from throwing away all his money. He would use up everything in the checking account and then use credit cards to the max. He got into debt. Missy warned him and warned him, but he just didn’t get it. She had no legal authority to stop him from his stupid decisions about money.
He got a housekeeper, Flossie, recommended by the manager of his building. Flossie didn’t have much money, and needed to get her car fixed. She hit up Howard and wrote herself a large check from his account, which she had him sign.
When Missy confronted him about giving Flossie money, he lashed out and tried to hit her. He had a history of violence and Missy was fearful as well as very angry. Dad had given away cash to five other women before Flossie!
Finally, Missy was able to get the checkbook away from dad and no one else could write checks for this blind man to sign. He was now out of money. She had not taken legal steps to do this before he was broke. Not smart.
Flossie decided she was “in love” with Howard. She assured his daughter that she just wanted to be with him but they weren’t going to get married. Then Howard took a fall, was hospitalized and soon after, went to a nursing home. Flossie kept hanging around. One day, she went down to City Hall and got a marriage license. She never told Missy. She found an officiant for marrying them and had the ceremony right there in the nursing home.
Missy was beyond furious. She had reported Flossie to Adult Protective Services. The worker told her that Howard was “entitled to his folly”. She thought that was just plain stupid. She was advised that she could go to court and get a guardianship over her Dad. But, he had no money left and it seemed pointless by then. It was going to cost thousands of dollars too.
She sought advice at AgingParents.com. Mediation of the dispute with Flossie was suggested. Missy and Flossie both agreed to talk over the problem.
Missy wanted to have the marriage annulled. She wanted Flossie to be able to visit Howard, as he did seem to like her company and he was lonely. Missy and her husband had a suspicious and mistrusting relationship with Flossie, but in a way she was actually helping them by keeping Howard company while they were at work. Flossie didn’t want an annulment. She liked the idea of being married. Apparently, she didn’t consider Howard’s credit card debt. She just wanted to get something from Howard, like his Social Security survivor’s benefits.
The dispute was mediated without involving lawyers or the court. Missy proposed that she would allow Flossie to continue to visit Howard as she wanted. But, she was to refrain from discussing money and would report to Missy. When Missy asked Flossie if she was going to pay her Dad’s credit card bills, Flossie blanched. Suddenly, she seemed a lot more interested in the annulment.
She agreed to Missy’s conditions. A deal was worked out between them with the mediator’s help. Flossie agreed not to tell Howard about the annulment. He had been declared incompetent long before, and would forget what it meant anyway. Flossie agreed to the legal annulment. In exchange, Missy and her husband agreed to attend a “marriage” ceremony between Flossie and Howard at Missy’s home, without any paperwork, without it being legally recognized, and Howard would be none the wiser. Flossie could play married, without any legal consequences good or bad. Howard would still have Flossie’s companionship and Missy was okay with that.
The resolution gave everyone at least some of what they wanted. Before it got as far as it did, however, Missy might have tried other options.
By the second or third time a woman had ripped Howard off, she might have worked on persuading him to give her a Durable Power of Attorney for finances. She could have moved funds out of his checking account and stopped the ripoffs by his “girlfriends”. He eventually did sign one, but it was too late to keep his funds in the bank when he did.
She also could have gone to court for that guardianship. His doctors were cooperative in declaring him incompetent to handle money. Guardianship was a last resort, but it would have protected him. He ended up on Medicaid, in a 3 bed room in a mediocre nursing home. He will likely stay there for the rest of his days. Guess that’s how it works when one is “entitled to his folly”.
I’m hoping that anyone with an aging parent who is like Howard will look ahead. Sometimes, your aging parent makes a string of stupid decisions and you can’t stop them. But sometimes you can stop the folly before it’s too late. If you don’t know what to do, seek some outside advice.
Until next time,
Carolyn Rosenblatt
AgingParents.com
Mar 25, 2016 | aging, diminished cognition, elderly, finances for elders, financial capacity, financial elder abuse, scammers, senior citizen investor, senior investor
Can you think of anything that makes a person more desperate than being in pain? You can't stand it. Maybe you'll fall for anything that promises to end your pain.
My mother in law, Alice, at 92 was feeling like that. She had chronic knee pain that was getting worse. She went with some friends to a"free lunch seminars", always a vehicle for selling something.
This one was put on near a large retirement community. The place is full of fairly well to do elders, some quite wealthy. Nice target, right? The perpetrator in this situation was a chiropractor. He knew exactly what he was doing, promising to end everyone's chronic pain. All they had to do was sign up for his "guaranteed" to work pain relief program for a mere $3000 payable in advance and of course, nonrefundable. He carefully never put the guarantee in writing, but he used verbally it to seduce anyone there into believing his promise of pain relief.
Alice signed up. I advised her not to go through with his program and politely told her there were suspicious things I found in checking him out. She said she was ready to try anything and he assured her that everyone got good results. She went anyway.
The chiropractor in question didn't even see her. His assistant did the work, which involved very brief "treatment" and a very long pressured talk to try to get her to buy his expensive supplements which they now said would enable the treatment to work. As the scam became more obvious, Alice got disgusted. The "treatment" did nothing at all for her pain. She quit and asked for her money back. No dice.
With her permission we filed a complaint with the State Chiropractic Board. which prosecutes fraud and license violations through the state Attorney General. They pursued the chiropractor, eventually settling with him. He paid a fine and was probably placed on probation. Of course none of this gets Alice her money back. At last check he's still in business.
Pain relief is a big opportunity for scammers. They may be chiropractors or others who have some kind of license. They may be selling magic potions on the internet. It could start with one amount and escalate as it did with the chiropractor to expensive add ons, his "supplements".
Recent research shows that many seniors who get taken for relatively small amounts of money often become victims in escalating amounts over time. They want to trust when they feel desperate and that makes them vulnerable to manipulation.
What can you do as a professional if your client is victimized by a scam? Here are three things:
- If you learn about this sort of shady character, encourage your client to fight back. File a complaint. Write a letter to the entity in power. You can offer your help with paperwork or filling out a complaint form. Not every predator can be stopped but some can if you help your client take action.
- Warn other older clients. If you have aging clients, warn them by letter or email about any shady operators in your area. You never know who you might be saving by doing that.
- Make it public. If your client's story is useful and you get permission to share it, local newspapers, TV or radio stations may be interested in it. That's one way to educate and thwart these predators.
Do you have an experience of seeing a client get taken advantage of by a shady character like the chiropractor here? We'd like to hear from you. Your colleagues can also learn from you. We invite you to send us your stories. Please email me: carolyn@aginginvestor.com.
Mar 25, 2016 | aging, aging investor, Alzheimer's disease, diminished cognition, elder investor, elderly, finances for elders, financial capacity, financial elder abuse, handling money for aging parents, handling money for seniors, investor, senior citizen investor, senior investor, seniors finances
Have you ever wondered about one of your
own client’s capacity for making financial decisions? Professionals who directly or indirectly sell services and products to aging people may not be clear about financial capacity. It is indeed a complex thing, and one should not underestimate how difficult it can be to make a determination about whether a client is impaired. Does the client seem “out of it” sometimes? Forgetful? Is he acting strangely? Maybe you just dismissed it if you noticed those things. You may have thought, “he’s just getting old”. Maybe you didn’t think it was any big deal. But was it? Diminished capacity may not be obvious at all. Small warning signs can be missed. And every warning sign is a clue. The clues can mount up and paint a picture. You need to be able to see it. And first you need to know what to look for in your aging clients. How do you decide whether someone has diminished capacity for financial decisions? Ultimately, the question of capacity is a
legal decision, aided by lawyers, medical professionals and sometimes by judges. And lawyers also have a difficult time seeing the grey areas and the nuances of thinking that comprise financial decision-making abilities. One thing every professional working with seniors should know are the warning signs of dementia. If you see enough of these warning signs, your client is likely to be impaired in her financial judgment Excellent information for the public is available on the Alzheimer’s Association website at
alz.org. Memory loss is often the first sign of dementia. There is a difference between memory loss a non-demented person experiences and the memory loss that evolves in to dementia. As an example, forgetting a person’s name is common and we usually remember the name later. (Does this ever happen to you, “it’s on the tip of my tongue, but I can’t remember right now”?) People who are developing dementia don’t remember these things later. Their short term memory is eroding steadily. They forget what was said in the middle of a sentence. They forget appointments. They don’t remember that you spoke with them yesterday.
Confusion is another sign. They may forget where they are going or get lost. They may exhibit unusual behavior from what is normal for them. These are the kinds of things that tip you off that a cognitive problem is looming. A person who shows you these signs may be impaired for making safe financial decisions. Beware of drawing general conclusions about dementia or Alzheimer's Disease from a single case with which you may have personal experience. If your client is not doing what your grandmother with Alzheimer's did, you can't be certain that your client does not have dementia. Have you as a financial professional had any personal experience with dementia in a family member or client? Let us know about what you did to handle the issues affecting so many. We welcome your input.
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Jan 16, 2016 | aging, aging investor, elder investor, elderly, finra, investor, NASAA, SEC, senior investor
“Regulatory Changes Advisors Must Face With Your Aging Clients”
Summary of course:
Update on what the SEC, FINRA an NASAA have in mind for financial professionals across the country in how they do business with clients over age 65. Review of the research these agencies have done, Model Rules regulators have created and what exemplary things they found firms and organizations doing for aging clients. They all want financial professionals to be more protective of aging investors. They envision mandates for reporting financial abuse of elders will and expand mandates into other areas. This course highlights areas regulators expect advisors to address, such as training in senior issues and increased communication with aging clients. It provides specifics on how to get ready for what the regulators want so that you will not have to scramble to comply with mandates.
Learning Objectives:
- Understand the regulators’ concept of a “senior program” and how you can create one.
- Know the Model Rules about financial abuse the regulators have already publicly posted.
- Know what other firms across the US are doing about aging investors that you should be doing too.
- Know what action steps you can and should take now to be ready for mandates.
