Three Tips For Talking To Your Older Clients About Long Term Care

Three Tips For Talking To Your Older Clients About Long Term Care

Three Tips For Talking To Your Older Clients About Long Term Care

When you look at an older client's portfolio, the biggest concern is probably about whether they have enough to last to the end.  You calculate the drawdown, the earnings, and you spend time on those figures.  But what about long term care?

This is the conversation the client doesn't want to have.  No one wants to think about being disabled or losing independence.

Of course, this is not realistic.  You, the planner may not want to bring up the subject because of your own discomfort, or because you aren't sure what to say, or perhaps because your client dismisses it if you do bring it up. But a competent planner and advisor must do so.

Consider this realistic typical scenario:

A health crisis happens to your client. It can be a fall, a stroke or heart attack, anything that is unexpected. First, there is a hospitalization.  OK, Medicare covers that, together with supplemental insurance. A rehab facility is next with therapy and nursing care.  Medicare covers that but only to a point. When the elder is ready for discharge, the client and family are told, sometimes a day or two beforehand, that they will have to get help for the aging loved one at home.  ”Doesn’t Medicare cover that?” they ask. Unfortunately, no, they are told.

The Cost 

So the family members and the client start scrambling to provide help at home. In some parts of the country the cost is about $30 per hour.  According to the Genworth 2015 Cost of Care study, the national median price for someone to provide help with bathing, dressing and walking or other hands-on home help is $20/hour.

When you do the math, you realize that even if your client needs just twenty hours a week at the average cost, it will add up to nearly $20,000 a year.  That is on top of other, non-covered medical expenses, such as physical therapy when Medicare stops paying, hearing aids, and many medications. And that is just the beginning.  Limited hours of home care often stretch into full time care as people  who have disabling conditions age.

Some people figure they can spend their assets and give things away so they can qualify for Medicaid.  I would not recommend Medicaid as the best way to get quality care.  First, one must be really destitute to qualify for it. And the state looks back at all financial transactions for a five year period in most states prior to the application to see what was going on, what transfers were made and if they were honestly done. Second, the care one receives under Medicaid is the most basic, may be of the lowest quality and typically is not what anyone really wants.

If you can prevent that choice, you will.  Your client could spend her last days in a three bed room in a dingy nursing home if she or anyone in her life thinks Medicaid is a fine way to pay for care.

The cost for quality care at home can be staggering.  In my own prosperous county, with a very high elder population, the cost of 24/7 care at home from non-nursing providers (home care workers) exceeds $200,000 per year.  That is on top of the ordinary costs of living a senior has, regardless of care. And she will still be paying her out of pocket costs for other things Medicare does not cover: many medications, other non-covered services, Medicare premiums, etc.

 Taking On The Long Term Care Discussion: Three things you should do

  1. You need to create a plan for how to pay for long term care in the future as part of your job of financial planning and retirement planning.  Your client is not likely to ask you about it. Do not wait to have these discussions. Cash for the unexpected need for care could be a major expense. Your client needs to know the facts and figures.  Most people grossly underestimate the costs. We have even seen financial industry publications naively state "Medicare pays for most things". It doesn't pay for what most people need to stay at home after any disabling condition arises.
  1. Educate your client about the likelihood of this need for future care.About 70% of people will need long term care in some form in their futures.  Failure to plan for it can bankrupt a person or leave them in serious debt toward the end of life. Or some investments could make cash inaccessible when needed.
  1.  Use resources to help yourself understand the real costs of home care, assisted living, and nursing home care.  In order to educate your client, you need to educate yourself first. The Genworth Cost of Care study is a good resource. Here at AgingInvestor.com, we also offer tools[1] to help you.  Be sure you have something to hand to and to discuss with your client.  The need is now for any retiree.

by Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder Law Attorney & Dr. Mikol Davis, Geriatric Psychologist

AgingInvestor.com

[1] The Family Guide to Aging Parents: Answers to Your Legal, Healthcare and Financial Questions, and Succeed With Senior Clients: A Financial Advisor's Guide To Best Practices and Working With Aging Clients, A Guide for Legal, Business and Financial Professionals. All 3 books are available at AgingInvestor.com and Amazon.com

 

Financial Advice Your Boomer Clients May Need

Financial Advice Your Boomer Clients May Need

Are you considering the issue of Boomers having to care for their aging loved ones in retirement? You've probably done a good job with helping clients be ready for retirement age, but every financial professional needs to consider a massive problem we now face. Our oldest old are living longer than anyone expected and they can run out of resources. Their adult children might have to care for, pay for or take in their aging parents.

Years before, the parent probably extracted a vow from the adult child your client, (typically a daughter) "promise you'll never put me in one of those homes".  And the daughter, without much thought replied, "Of course Mom. I'd never do that".  How time changes things.

The concept of "being put in a home" is vague, based on largely outdated notions our elders have of ugly warehouses for the poor, something conjured not just out of an English novel, but out of the way things once actually were in some places, long before Medicare and Medicaid existed to ensure at least some care for our elders. We did neglect older impoverished people and place them in poorly regulated homes.

Things are supposed to be better now, with the rise of public benefits, and government regulations over skilled nursing facilities, all designed to keep residents safe and in a somewhat dignified existence. The intended outcome of these regulations does not always meet reality. The cost of caregiving for all but the lowest income in our society is borne by the elders themselves if they have the funds or by their families if the parent has limited means.  .

Advisors may discuss with retirement-age clients that Medicare doesn't cover all the costs of medical treatment that clients themselves may need as they age. But few advisors have the foresight to ask their clients if they anticipate also having to pay the cost of care and out of pocket medical expenses for their parents too.

We have a 94 year old mother in law. She's in decent health, and has the means to cover what she needs now and in the future. We're among the fortunate ones. Years ago, we and my husband's parents made a joint investment that pays enough income for her, now widowed, to live on. She can cover health emergencies, home care, expensive medications and whatever downturns her health may bring. She has savings as well. This is not how it works for the average person in our country. Perhaps your clients are wealthy but their parents might not be.

Some folks solve the issue of what to do by bringing the aging parent into their homes and providing or paying for care themselves. This multi-generation household approach is a cost effective way to house an aging parent with limited resources and cover many expenses that would otherwise have to be borne by the elder who just might be low income by the time they reach the age of 94, like she did in my family.

Bringing in the aging parent to live with you is not a solution for everyone, but one worth considering. If you broach the subject with your Boomer clients, you can get them thinking about this. Longevity is increasing steadily and it is going to affect those whose parents live longer than anyone thought they would. The takeaway here is for you, the financial professional to ask them about it.

Here are some basic questions you should ask:

"Do you anticipate having to pay for support for anyone else during your retirement years? Are your parents living? How is their health these days? What would you do if they got low on funds and needed care? Have you thought about what it would cost to care for them?"

Learn more about how your clients need to discuss finances with their own aging family members at AgingInvestor.com in Succeed With Senior Clients, A Financial Advisor's Guide to Best Practices. You'll be doing a great service and prudent planning when you initiate the discussion they need to have.

A Great Way To Distinguish Yourself As A Professional

A Great Way To Distinguish Yourself As A Professional

Doesn’t every professional want to stand out from the crowd?  Be better at delivering services? Somehow get a reputation as a cut above the average guy or gal in the biz?

It’s hard to sell the idea that you give better service when you are doing essentially what your competitors do in the same space. The secret is in offering a different service from the others in your field, besides the usual expertise in your field clients have a right to expect use the best essay editor source.  
What will that different service be?  If you want to focus on senior safety, that can be it.  We don’t mean that you know about the things seniors need to know about, such as retirement strategy, estate planning, moving, wealth preservation, tax planning and all that.  It will be about specifically protecting them from abuse.To do that, you’ll need a senior-specific policy that spells out how you can protect a client.                
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Can FINRA Come After You For Failure to Supervise?

Can FINRA Come After You For Failure to Supervise?

Do you supervise anyone in your office or firm? Beware of supervision over improper mutual fund switching, especially with older clients.

FINRA Rule 3110(a) requires each member to “establish and maintain a system to supervise the activities of each associated person that is reasonably designed to achieve compliance with applicable securities laws and regulations, and with applicable FINRA rules.”

An individual supervisor may be held liable under Rule 3110(a) for failure to provide reasonable supervision. When a supervisor is charged with a failure to supervise, it’s because of not acting on the red flags the examiners felt were evidence of wrongdoing. Those red flags could include switching to up-front sales loads with a number of elder investors and unusually high commissions that result. When this happens with a number of older clients, it will alert them to scrutinize you more closely.

If older clients have shown signs of diminished capacity and this sort of switching is going on, it is asking for trouble from FINRA. This agency is focused on a lot of compliance issues but they are particularly interested in anything that appears to be taking unfair advantage of seniors. They want you to understand diminished capacity and to be able to identify the warning signs. Every supervisor should know this information well.

One of FINRA’s persistent recommendations matches the stated goals of both the SEC and NASAA as well: it is that you keep your aging clients safer. Given that shared regulatory mission, it is understandable that they are looking for places to hold you accountable in your transactions with seniors.

To learn more about diminished capacity, the red flags and what you can do when you spot them, take advantage of an opportunity to get a quick online primer at your convenience. AgingInvestor.com offers Best Practices for Managing Clients With Diminished Capacity.

Click here to learn more: https://www.aginginvestor.com/courses/

Are Your Own Clients Being Ripped Off?

Are Your Own Clients Being Ripped Off?

Is financial abuse happening to YOUR clients right now? Of course it is. There is no escaping it. A recent study puts the amount stolen from elders every year in our country at over $36B. With a problem as big as this, no group of elders is immune.. If you took a survey of your existing clients all age 65 or older, and asked them how many have ever been taken advantage of financially, you would be sure to get some clients who would admit to this. If you look at your own experience and count up any instance you know of, whether it is in your family, your neighborhood or your book of business, you will likely find some financial abuse as well.

Why Is This Important for You?

The amounts stolen, fraudulently taken or just snatched from the unwary, are shocking. Remember that when your client loses assets, you lose fees. That is the most basic reason this should be important to you as a financial professional. Doing the right thing to keep your clients safe is certainly a motivator as well. It shows that you do care about them. And beyond that, the regulators are increasingly aware that financial professionals are in a position to take action and, sometimes, to stop and prevent financial abuse. They will soon get past merely urging you to take action and to report abuse. They will ultimately make it mandatory.

And we think you can do more proactively than merely to understand how to report abuse after the fact. It would be great to catch more criminals but that is extremely difficult in many cases because they are very clever at evading law enforcement. And since family members are the most frequent abusers, we have an added problem in that many elders are reluctant to report abuse by their own to law enforcement. Mom just won’t call Adult Protective Services on her son, even when she knows he has stolen from her. We have seen this with our own eyes There are many instances of scammers getting into relationships with aging folks by phone or on the internet. The “friendly” relationships become addictive. These thieves persuade the victim to withdraw funds from their accounts. This is where the advisor comes in. Unusual withdrawals are an important warning sign of elder abuse. And when the advisor notices this in a client’s account there are choices available about stopping abuse. They include contacting a trusted other the elder has identified and warning them of what is happening. There should be more than one trusted person identified for every client. And by all means, contact Adult Protective Services and report it if you suspect fraud.

If you are worried about privacy rules, don’t be. The regulators of your industry want you to report abuse. They want you to make every effort to keep aging clients financially safer. If you are not sure about privacy, we can help you create a special privacy document here at AgingInvestor.com that gives you permission to call that third party. Every advisor with any client over age 65 should have this and understand how to approach a client about signing it. With permission like this, you should never hesitate to tell APS and the trusted other that you are concerned about your client being financially manipulated.

You can get more details about this elder abuse issue and what you can do as an advisor in Succeed With Senior Clients: A Financial Advisor’s Guide to Best Practices. See particularly the chapter “Financial Elder Abuse: How You Can Fight the Crime of the Century“. It’s available right now so click HERE to get your copy today.

by Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder law attorney, AgingInvestor.com