Jun 17, 2016 | aging, diminished cognition, elderly, scammers, senior investor, seniors finances
Howard, 92, loves women. He has dementia and is legally blind. He likes to give women checks when they tell him their sob stories about needing money. He has one daughter, Missy, who is aghast at his conduct.
After her mother died, Missy felt obligated to try to keep Dad from throwing away all his money. He would use up everything in the checking account and then use credit cards to the max. He got into debt. Missy warned him and warned him, but he just didn’t get it. She had no legal authority to stop him from his stupid decisions about money.
He got a housekeeper, Flossie, recommended by the manager of his building. Flossie didn’t have much money, and needed to get her car fixed. She hit up Howard and wrote herself a large check from his account, which she had him sign.
When Missy confronted him about giving Flossie money, he lashed out and tried to hit her. He had a history of violence and Missy was fearful as well as very angry. Dad had given away cash to five other women before Flossie!
Finally, Missy was able to get the checkbook away from dad and no one else could write checks for this blind man to sign. He was now out of money. She had not taken legal steps to do this before he was broke. Not smart.
Flossie decided she was “in love” with Howard. She assured his daughter that she just wanted to be with him but they weren’t going to get married. Then Howard took a fall, was hospitalized and soon after, went to a nursing home. Flossie kept hanging around. One day, she went down to City Hall and got a marriage license. She never told Missy. She found an officiant for marrying them and had the ceremony right there in the nursing home.
Missy was beyond furious. She had reported Flossie to Adult Protective Services. The worker told her that Howard was “entitled to his folly”. She thought that was just plain stupid. She was advised that she could go to court and get a guardianship over her Dad. But, he had no money left and it seemed pointless by then. It was going to cost thousands of dollars too.
She sought advice at AgingParents.com. Mediation of the dispute with Flossie was suggested. Missy and Flossie both agreed to talk over the problem.
Missy wanted to have the marriage annulled. She wanted Flossie to be able to visit Howard, as he did seem to like her company and he was lonely. Missy and her husband had a suspicious and mistrusting relationship with Flossie, but in a way she was actually helping them by keeping Howard company while they were at work. Flossie didn’t want an annulment. She liked the idea of being married. Apparently, she didn’t consider Howard’s credit card debt. She just wanted to get something from Howard, like his Social Security survivor’s benefits.
The dispute was mediated without involving lawyers or the court. Missy proposed that she would allow Flossie to continue to visit Howard as she wanted. But, she was to refrain from discussing money and would report to Missy. When Missy asked Flossie if she was going to pay her Dad’s credit card bills, Flossie blanched. Suddenly, she seemed a lot more interested in the annulment.
She agreed to Missy’s conditions. A deal was worked out between them with the mediator’s help. Flossie agreed not to tell Howard about the annulment. He had been declared incompetent long before, and would forget what it meant anyway. Flossie agreed to the legal annulment. In exchange, Missy and her husband agreed to attend a “marriage” ceremony between Flossie and Howard at Missy’s home, without any paperwork, without it being legally recognized, and Howard would be none the wiser. Flossie could play married, without any legal consequences good or bad. Howard would still have Flossie’s companionship and Missy was okay with that.
The resolution gave everyone at least some of what they wanted. Before it got as far as it did, however, Missy might have tried other options.
By the second or third time a woman had ripped Howard off, she might have worked on persuading him to give her a Durable Power of Attorney for finances. She could have moved funds out of his checking account and stopped the ripoffs by his “girlfriends”. He eventually did sign one, but it was too late to keep his funds in the bank when he did.
She also could have gone to court for that guardianship. His doctors were cooperative in declaring him incompetent to handle money. Guardianship was a last resort, but it would have protected him. He ended up on Medicaid, in a 3 bed room in a mediocre nursing home. He will likely stay there for the rest of his days. Guess that’s how it works when one is “entitled to his folly”.
I’m hoping that anyone with an aging parent who is like Howard will look ahead. Sometimes, your aging parent makes a string of stupid decisions and you can’t stop them. But sometimes you can stop the folly before it’s too late. If you don’t know what to do, seek some outside advice.
Until next time,
Carolyn Rosenblatt
AgingParents.com
Jun 15, 2016 | aging, aging investor, diminished cognition, elder investor, finances for elders, financial capacity, handling money for aging parents, handling money for seniors, investor, senior citizen investor, senior investor, seniors finances
Many older people have a bit of difficulty remembering. We often dismiss this when we see it in a client, thinking it's "just getting old". It may be part of aging, as we do process things more slowly as we age and recall may take longer. But, there is a point when a problem recalling things should be a red flag for diminished capacity for you, the advisor.
What are those red flags anyway? How do we label them?
There are numerous signs of diminished capacity, more extensive than this article allows, but we'll look at one category, which we call cognitive signs. Here's a breakdown of what you should look for when your client has a lot of difficulty remembering things.
What to note and document about memory loss
This is one of the first things most advisors may notice in a client that causes concern. Perhaps she does not remember important meetings, decisions and discussions. Here are some examples of what you may see:
Multiple telephone calls in one day that are repetitive and do not make sense. The client forgets that she has already talked with you and is calling about the same thing in another call to you. She repeats a question she already asked you and that you already answered.
Client forgets why he has an appointment with you. This can be by telephone or in person. Perhaps the client himself asked for the meeting but then he forgets why. Or perhaps you wanted to discuss a proposed transaction with him and told him that, but when you call or he comes into your office, he has no idea why he is there. Trying to refresh his memory about it does not help.
Complete forgetting of an event that just took place. You just spent a hour with your client telling her some important information about upcoming changes to her portfolio. She seemed to understand when you were talking but an hour later she asks you questions as if the meeting you just had never took place. She had totally forgotten about it.
No shows.
You have arranged meetings, appointments with others or events that require your client's participation. He agrees on the pre-arranged date and time but then does not show up. When you call him, he has no recollection of the event, that others are involved nor that he had agreed to this.
If your client demonstrates any of these indicators you need to be paying close attention and make an effort to contact your client more often than you did before you noticed these problems. Any or all of them might be warnings of developing dementia. The only way to determine if you have a serious problem here is to track these signs over time and keep good records of it.
If the problem gets worse, it is time to take it to the next level. In your organization that might mean escalation, or having the documentation reviewed by a committee. Ideally, as we see it, the next step should include contacting the client's appointed trusted third party who would step in when the client became impaired.
To learn more about the other red flags for diminished capacity in your clients and how to document them, get a copy of Succeed With Senior Clients, A Financial Advisor's Guide to Best Practices. See the chapter "Know Your Aging Client's Red Flags". It comes with an easy to use checklist you can put to work right away. Click HERE for your book!
By Carolyn Rosenblatt, RN, Elder law attorney
AgingInvestor.com
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Jun 15, 2016 | aging, aging investor, Alzheimer's disease, diminished cognition, elder investor, elderly, financial capacity, senior citizen investor, senior investor
Aging clients are an inevitable part of the landscape these days. People are living longer than ever. That’s great, but age brings risks to one’s mental capacity. And those risks put a burden on you the business professional to be aware of where to draw the line. When is it just not safe to rely on what an older client tells you to do?
Bear in mind that by age 85 one in three people will have Alzheimer’s Disease. This brain-destroying and progressive condition comes on slowly in most folks and begins to take its toll of judgment about financial matters quite early in the disease process. The person might seem perfectly fine in social discourse. That is not a guarantee of financial capacity.
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Mar 25, 2016 | aging, aging investor, diminished cognition, elder investor, elderly, finances for elders, financial capacity, finra, handling money for seniors, investor, senior citizen investor, senior investor, seniors finances
Have you ever felt frustrated when you thought your client was showing signs of declining mental status? Did you ever want to get someone else involved in financial decisions but thought you couldn’t because of privacy rules?
The average advisor has seven clients with some form of diminished capacity. Perhaps you are one of them, not comfortable with the privacy laws that restrict you from calling in someone to help when your client doesn’t seem all there anymore.
If you are worried that you must just stand by and watch a vulnerable client make bad decisions, or worse, get ripped off by someone who is manipulating him and taking advantage of his cognitive impairment, there’s good news. There is a way around the confidentiality conundrum. You need your client’s permission in advance to call that third party.
How do you plan for the possibility of needing a third party? Take your cue from lawyers. When we have a conflict that would be there unless we get an ok from our clients, we design a document that allows the client to give up the right she would otherwise have. We get the client’s signed approval do to what we need to do whenever feasible. You can do the same thing with privacy restrictions.
Imagine that you have some clients over the age of 65. Imagine that you are a proactive thinker. You want to keep all of them safe and keep those clients, even if they decline cognitively in the future. Imagine that you have been really smart and have gotten a special permission document done. Every client over age 65 signs it. You are ready!
What Should A Privacy Permission Contain?
We recommend three essential elements for your document.
First, you need to identify the circumstances under which your client wants to give you the ok to call in that third party they identify.
Second, the document needs to be legally sufficient; i.e., it should have language like an advance healthcare directive or a standard durable power of attorney.
Third, it needs to be signed and notarized by your client.
How Do You Get It Done?
Your legal department should be able to help you. If not, a model document was created by lawyers at AgingInvestor.com, in the context of a senior-specific program to protect your aging investors. You can’t just throw one together. As you have to know, recognize and document the signs of diminished capacity that would lead to use of this kind of document, those are prerequisites. Then the matter escalates according to a standard procedure. Get a clear path. Find out more about it HERE.
Mar 25, 2016 | aging, aging investor, Alzheimer's disease, diminished cognition, elder investor, elderly, finances for elders, financial capacity, financial elder abuse, handling money for aging parents, handling money for seniors, investor, senior citizen investor, senior investor, seniors finances
Have you ever wondered about one of your
own client’s capacity for making financial decisions? Professionals who directly or indirectly sell services and products to aging people may not be clear about financial capacity. It is indeed a complex thing, and one should not underestimate how difficult it can be to make a determination about whether a client is impaired. Does the client seem “out of it” sometimes? Forgetful? Is he acting strangely? Maybe you just dismissed it if you noticed those things. You may have thought, “he’s just getting old”. Maybe you didn’t think it was any big deal. But was it? Diminished capacity may not be obvious at all. Small warning signs can be missed. And every warning sign is a clue. The clues can mount up and paint a picture. You need to be able to see it. And first you need to know what to look for in your aging clients. How do you decide whether someone has diminished capacity for financial decisions? Ultimately, the question of capacity is a
legal decision, aided by lawyers, medical professionals and sometimes by judges. And lawyers also have a difficult time seeing the grey areas and the nuances of thinking that comprise financial decision-making abilities. One thing every professional working with seniors should know are the warning signs of dementia. If you see enough of these warning signs, your client is likely to be impaired in her financial judgment Excellent information for the public is available on the Alzheimer’s Association website at
alz.org. Memory loss is often the first sign of dementia. There is a difference between memory loss a non-demented person experiences and the memory loss that evolves in to dementia. As an example, forgetting a person’s name is common and we usually remember the name later. (Does this ever happen to you, “it’s on the tip of my tongue, but I can’t remember right now”?) People who are developing dementia don’t remember these things later. Their short term memory is eroding steadily. They forget what was said in the middle of a sentence. They forget appointments. They don’t remember that you spoke with them yesterday.
Confusion is another sign. They may forget where they are going or get lost. They may exhibit unusual behavior from what is normal for them. These are the kinds of things that tip you off that a cognitive problem is looming. A person who shows you these signs may be impaired for making safe financial decisions. Beware of drawing general conclusions about dementia or Alzheimer's Disease from a single case with which you may have personal experience. If your client is not doing what your grandmother with Alzheimer's did, you can't be certain that your client does not have dementia. Have you as a financial professional had any personal experience with dementia in a family member or client? Let us know about what you did to handle the issues affecting so many. We welcome your input.
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